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Goldy
Joined: Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:12 pm Posts: 67 Location: Mindarie, Perth
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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is it a yanky kit??
Does it say why they want you to run inverted shock's??
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Red89
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2801 Location: Perth
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probably means to run them inboarded so they dont bottom out
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Goldy
Joined: Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:12 pm Posts: 67 Location: Mindarie, Perth
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Ye it is a yanky kit, doesn't say why but I've sent an email asking if they can explain why.
Definitely shows and means inverted.
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Joe

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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
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What do you mean by inverted?
I know with the calmini kit the shocks have to be used upside down (to clear the diff) if that's what you are talking about
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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this is what mine look like inverted it doesnt mean upside down

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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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Inverted means upside down.
Inboarded means you bring the top shock mound inward(closer together)
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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i see said the blind man
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
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mr_ron

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Joined: Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:16 am Posts: 279 Location: Beenleigh, Qld
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do they have adjustment knobs? could they mean to install them facing outwards toward the springs like Mr Rocky instead of inwards like mine?
I've heard of people running the Ranchos upside down to avoid the diff crushing the shock housing without any dramas.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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Rancho RS9000 shocks do not work upside down.
Many years ago 4WD1 (who called themselves something different then) recommended a fitment for my Gwagen - it was the same part number front and rear, with the fronts upside down. My spring maker was suspicious they wouldn't work so we bought one and dynoed it right way up and upside down. They didn't work upside down, for the reasons the OP posted. The valving goes totally whack.
For some reason, illiterate hilux owners started the whole "inverted" thing to describe rotating their shocks from inclined fore-aft to across the car like a sierra.
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Red89
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2801 Location: Perth
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mr_ron

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Joined: Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:16 am Posts: 279 Location: Beenleigh, Qld
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Ohh Thanks for that Steve! I was contemplating flipping them to avoind any future damage.. will leave them be now 
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303zuke

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Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2447
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I have introverted my rear shocks, but I can't show you a pic as they're a little camera-shy.
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Goldy
Joined: Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:12 pm Posts: 67 Location: Mindarie, Perth
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Will update with the reply I get from Calmini, as they definitely do not work at all upside down.
Just thought I'd post so other people running the twin tube design shocks know they are not getting any use from their shocks if they have been inverted.
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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mr_ron wrote: Ohh Thanks for that Steve! I was contemplating flipping them to avoind any future damage.. will leave them be now 
I cut my brake line bracket things off and moved the brake lines on top of the diff. shocks are loving it.(RS9000XL)
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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Red89 wrote: Yes I know its Lux and I know its snake racing but inverted shocks can also refer to inboarding, dont know why but they do. Have heard it being used for Sierra as well http://store.snakeracing.com.au/~snaker ... 16092576c8
Id say its just become common talk as people say "i inverted my shocks" and describe it as moving them inward. So everyone has picked it up and spread it. But in reality, theyre two very different things.
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Goldy
Joined: Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:12 pm Posts: 67 Location: Mindarie, Perth
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SierraDan wrote: mr_ron wrote: Ohh Thanks for that Steve! I was contemplating flipping them to avoind any future damage.. will leave them be now  I cut my brake line bracket things off and moved the brake lines on top of the diff. shocks are loving it.(RS9000XL)
would be interested in these pics if u have them dan? unless they're on your build thread
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Red89
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2801 Location: Perth
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Goldy wrote: Will update with the reply I get from Calmini, as they definitely do not work at all upside down. Just thought I'd post so other people running the twin tube design shocks know they are not getting any use from their shocks if they have been inverted.
Any word from Calmini yet ?
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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i run my calmini shocks upside down and they still work.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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shep wrote: i run my calmini shocks upside down and they still work.
but in saying that how long did you drive around with no shocks 
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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atari4x4 wrote: shep wrote: i run my calmini shocks upside down and they still work. but in saying that how long did you drive around with no shocks 
dunno what you are talking about
no shocks was fine until i tried to tow my boat, they went back in fairly quickly then.
i actually didn't notice a difference in the way they work no matter which way they are mounted.
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Red89
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2801 Location: Perth
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shep wrote: i run my calmini shocks upside down and they still work.
I ran mine upside down too, and they worked but not very well.
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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Gwagensteve wrote: Rancho RS9000 shocks do not work upside down.
Many years ago 4WD1 (who called themselves something different then) recommended a fitment for my Gwagen - it was the same part number front and rear, with the fronts upside down. My spring maker was suspicious they wouldn't work so we bought one and dynoed it right way up and upside down. They didn't work upside down, for the reasons the OP posted. The valving goes totally whack.
For some reason, illiterate hilux owners started the whole "inverted" thing to describe rotating their shocks from inclined fore-aft to across the car like a sierra.
Steve.
Will confirm this. Tested it last week. Running no shocks and upside down 9000XL's was the same. It was nice having the soft ride while driving but, hit the brakes, need to turn or hit a speed bump and it was horrible to drive.
And in the bush it made things very difficult to control with the constant bouncing around.
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