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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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 Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 7:51 am |
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I have been looking at getting some new radius arms for the front and rear. For the front i will either be getting jimny bit's 4" radius arms (once released) or ORA 4.5" arms. But for the rear i come across these
http://www.alibaba.com/member/tw1022821 ... _Style.jpg
They are a 2peace arm i would think they would help the rear end flex right?Also help stop some of my binding issues to? But the thing putting me of these arms ATM is i'm not to sure how they would handle on road?
Any one know how these arms would go on road? I would really like to know...
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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wont make any difference, even with a joint there its still a triangle and as everyone that went to primary school knows triangles are pretty strong and dont move
if the short link was adjustable it could be used to correct castor though
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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 Could you see any other reason for them been a 2 peace arm then Royce?
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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To look fully sick and fool people that dont think that they are hardcore?
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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royce wrote: To look fully sick and fool people that dont think that they are hardcore?
Wouldn't of brought a jimny if i wanted that 
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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 Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:16 am |
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Y not just spend the money and get some one to flip the factory arms ontop of the diff
That way u end up with the arms flat again which will Handle and flex heaps better
U could put a johny joint in the chassis end which should help stop the arms from bending when flexed but wont stop the bind at the diff end .
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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pretty jimny arms are made recycled sigma's & camira's...
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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If there any think like coily arms the biggest problem is people not running soft rubber bushes in them .
Plastic bushes have no place in a radius arm because the arm bends before the bush does
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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I'm running the factory rubber bushes in the rear...and it's binding at the chassis end first....(will double check that on the week end)
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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I could make axle stand's out of them!!! 
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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 Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 8:53 am |
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That's what my coily used to do that's y I think Johnny joints at the chassis end would help a bit
Mine bent a rear arm from twisting it so much
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
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got_bar_work wrote: That's what my coily used to do that's y I think Johnny joints at the chassis end would help a bit Mine bent a rear arm from twisting it so much
This!!! It has already started to twist
Gwagonsteve think's another solution could be to drilled the hole at the chassis mount 10mm lower so the arm has nothing to bind on....
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smiffkid

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Joined: Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:55 pm Posts: 3266 Location: perth wa
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 Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:13 pm |
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just keep driving it put a locker in and it will componsate for the extra 3mm of travel your gonna get
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Lockie666

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Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1874 Location: Perth
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got_bar_work wrote: If there any think like coily arms the biggest problem is people not running soft rubber bushes in them . Plastic bushes have no place in a radius arm because the arm bends before the bush does
The diff mounts break before the arms do, I've broken mine 3 times now... 
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Lockie666

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Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1874 Location: Perth
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smiffkid wrote: just keep driving it put a locker in and it will componsate for the extra 3mm of travel your gonna get
I don't how people can compare a locker to having extra suspension flex, they are two very different things. Depending on the situation lack of either of them can cause sticky situations.
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BertZook

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Joined: Wed May 26, 2010 3:01 am Posts: 2979 Location: Sunshine Coast
Vehicle: Jimny, 45mm lift, 235's tyres
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 Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 4:50 pm |
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monkey wrote: :helloo: Gang, I have been looking at getting some new radius arms for the front and rear. For the front i will either be getting jimny bit's 4" radius arms (once released) or ORA 4.5" arms. But for the rear i come across these http://www.alibaba.com/member/tw1022821 ... _Style.jpgThey are a 2peace arm i would think they would help the rear end flex right?Also help stop some of my binding issues to? But the thing putting me of these arms ATM is i'm not to sure how they would handle on road? Any one know how these arms would go on road? I would really like to know... Cheers,
if u re gonna buy the ORA ones, u re better off buying the whole kit having the rear too... keeping it all under the same design/company
plus, why do you want more flex? u already have heaps... u want more flex start designing a custom new suspension system
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gman
Joined: Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 172 Location: Longford, Tasmania
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Monkey, I can see how the extra bush in the arm you are looking at will offer 1 more bush to flex but this been the only benefit, might be all you need.
http://item.rakuten.co.jp/hb-1st/877761/
have you considered this 4 link setup for the rear?
rubber bushes are a must in Jimny suspension it needs the flex and why caster bushes are not worth their weight in the performance benefits.
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
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 it looks to be a bolt on kit right? Might have to look into getting that kit....
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smiffkid

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Joined: Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:55 pm Posts: 3266 Location: perth wa
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cause u can have as much suspension travel as u like but with an open center diff as soon as a bit of weight comes off the ground the wheel is gonna start spinning
but lockers and reasonble flex is ample
might have to designe some new front shocks eh monkey
they dont seem to be long enough
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Scales

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Joined: Mon May 30, 2011 9:28 am Posts: 2233 Location: Townsville
Vehicle: 03 Jim M13A no-vvt, Vinyl Spec
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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gman wrote: Monkey, I can see how the extra bush in the arm you are looking at will offer 1 more bush to flex but this been the only benefit, might be all you need. http://item.rakuten.co.jp/hb-1st/877761/have you considered this 4 link setup for the rear?  rubber bushes are a must in Jimny suspension it needs the flex and why caster bushes are not worth their weight in the performance benefits.
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gman
Joined: Tue Dec 01, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 172 Location: Longford, Tasmania
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hold on........
what about this one
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
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gman wrote: hold on........  what about this one
Saw that on their site too. Pretty cool. Definitely would like to see pics installed
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Chop

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Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 6456 Location: Radelaide ofcourse!
Vehicle: Suzuki GV 03/ 2010 DDIS NGV
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 Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:33 am |
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smiffkid wrote: cause u can have as much suspension travel as u like but with an open center diff as soon as a bit of weight comes off the ground the wheel is gonna start spinning but lockers and reasonble flex is ample
might have to designe some new front shocks eh monkey
they dont seem to be long enough
Did you learn that riding a quad 
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smiffkid

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Joined: Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:55 pm Posts: 3266 Location: perth wa
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locked rear on my quad, goes most places for shore
heaps of travel is good but still gotta keep the wheels turning as andrew learnt today
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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what happened today?? =)
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
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alien wrote: what happened today?? =)
X2
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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zukenutter wrote: gman wrote: hold on........  what about this one Saw that on their site too. Pretty cool. Definitely would like to see pics installed
 I could glue that into Sully's bum!!!! 
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smiffkid

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Joined: Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:55 pm Posts: 3266 Location: perth wa
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nothing to his car, just a quick powerlines trip to test some things
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