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Joe

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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
Vehicle: JB74
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 Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:56 pm |
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shep wrote: here is a hint dave if you have this in your sig line _________________ I will try to piss one of you off on every thread.then you must be a cocksmoker, simple as that. and i also reckon that you are a low grade bullshit artist.

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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:00 pm |
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you do however need the VSS if you are planning on running a 4 speed auto
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v.w.dave
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1437 Location: The Hills Sydney
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ball wrote: v.w.dave wrote: I am settled Want33 I asked a simple question and got a Dick answer So I gave the Dick a fuck off responce.
To me what you call a VSS is a G2 or G60 on older VW. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that VSS is Vehicle Speed Sensor. The initials and what it is used for sort of give it away. How does G2 or G60 give any meaningful indication of what the item is. Is it a factory part number ?
No they are value block IDs there part numbers would be more like 1J0927903E
VW found a long time ago that translation for IDs was easier for world wide then shortend names like VSS.
To me VSS means nothing where G2 or G60 or G21 will tell me exactly what I am looking at and what set up is onthe car without ever opening the hood. All I have to do is hook my scan tool. It is harder to get usetoo but once you do it makes for much easier Diag.
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v.w.dave
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1437 Location: The Hills Sydney
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joseph wrote: shep wrote: here is a hint dave if you have this in your sig line _________________ I will try to piss one of you off on every thread.then you must be a cocksmoker, simple as that. and i also reckon that you are a low grade bullshit artist. 
Yep thats me I love the cock. Any one up for a down hill mogel ride???
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:30 pm |
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tanshi wrote: you do however need the VSS if you are planning on running a 4 speed auto
Yep would defo need it with the electronic auto.
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ninjadaniel
Joined: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 365 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:35 pm |
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I did my 1.6 conversion without the VSS and found that if i was at cruising (consistent) speed and pabbed my foot down, the car would splutter before accelerating. This was fixed once i moved the VSS circuitboard from the vitara cluster to the sierra cluster.
vwdave can you get back to me about completing payment for the Vitara intake manifold and angle dizzy drive, i need the cash asap.
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:38 pm |
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ninjadaniel wrote: I did my 1.6 conversion without the VSS and found that if i was at cruising (consistent) speed and pabbed my foot down, the car would splutter before accelerating. This was fixed once i moved the VSS circuitboard from the vitara cluster to the sierra cluster.
Interesting. Mine does the same and I had wondered if the VSS would make any difference.
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:45 pm |
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I have a baleno conversion without a VSS and have no issues,
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Joe

I live here!
Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
Vehicle: JB74
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 Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:50 pm |
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v.w.dave wrote: joseph wrote: shep wrote: here is a hint dave if you have this in your sig line _________________ I will try to piss one of you off on every thread.then you must be a cocksmoker, simple as that. and i also reckon that you are a low grade bullshit artist.  Yep thats me I love the cock. Any one up for a down hill mogel ride???

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ball

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Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4673 Location: Katherine
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 Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:51 pm |
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v.w.dave wrote: ball wrote: v.w.dave wrote: I am settled Want33 I asked a simple question and got a Dick answer So I gave the Dick a fuck off responce.
To me what you call a VSS is a G2 or G60 on older VW. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out that VSS is Vehicle Speed Sensor. The initials and what it is used for sort of give it away. How does G2 or G60 give any meaningful indication of what the item is. Is it a factory part number ? No they are value block IDs there part numbers would be more like 1J0927903E VW found a long time ago that translation for IDs was easier for world wide then shortend names like VSS. To me VSS means nothing where G2 or G60 or G21 will tell me exactly what I am looking at and what set up is onthe car without ever opening the hood. All I have to do is hook my scan tool. It is harder to get usetoo but once you do it makes for much easier Diag.
That may be a system that works for 1 manufacturer, but it doesn't cross over to others.
What about an O2 sensor. Does it have a g code as well or is it referred to by it's actual usage ?
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v.w.dave
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1437 Location: The Hills Sydney
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Here is some proof from the cocksmoker thats full of shit.
This is what I am talking about in the world of VW we use codes
(sorry there is ment to be a pic for this one but I cant copy it off ELSA)
Description of instruments
Notet Different types of dash panel insert are installed depending on the vehicle equipment level. For this reason, the layout of the warning lamps and analogue displays may deviate from the illustration.
t The dash panel insert is installed as “Lowline”, “Midline” or “Highline” version depending on the variant.
t Some warning lamps are installed only in accordance with the relevant vehicle equipment level.
t For explanations on the warning and control lamps and what they signify, please refer to the → operating manual of the vehicle.
1 - Rev. counter -G5-
2 - Coolant temperature gauge -G3-
3 - Fuel gauge -G1-
q Adaption → Chapter
4 - Speedometer -G21-
5 - Voltmeter -G14-
6 - Driving distance display -Y4- (total distance)
7 - Driving distance display -Y4- (daily kilometre distance)
8 - Reset button for trip recorder
9 - Coolant shortage warning lamp -K36-
q Lights up if the coolant level is too low or coolant temperature is too high
q Indicates fault if warning symbol fails to go out again after a few seconds, or lights up/flashes whilst driving. Three warning sounds are given.
10 - Brake pad warning lamp -K32-
q Brake pad thickness monitoring for front brake pads.
q Lights up when front brake pads are worn below the permissible thickness. We recommend also checking the thickness of the rear brake pads.
11 - Oil level warning lamp -K38-
q “Lights up”: engine oil level is too low.
q “Flashes”: engine oil level and oil temperature sender is defective.
12 - Reserve fuel warning lamp -K105-
q Fuel level low Vehicle fuel tank must be filled
13 - Rear lid open warning lamp -K127-
q Also lights up when ignition is switched off, if rear lid is open, or not properly closed
14 - Washer fluid low warning lamp -K106-
q Lights up if washer fluid level in windscreen washer reservoir is too low
15 - Multifunction display -J119-
q Dependent on equipment level with automatic gearbox selector lever display or Tiptronic gear display → Item.
16 - Tiptronic gear display
q Dependent on equipment level in multifunction display -J119- → Item.
17 - Front left door open warning lamp -K123-
q Also lights up when ignition is switched off, if one of the front doors or sliding doors is open, or not properly closed
18 - Oil pressure warning lamp -K3-
q Flashes and emits three warning sounds if engine oil pressure is too low.
19 - Knob for adjusting digital clock
20 - Digital clock -Y2-
21 - Oil temperature gauge -G9-
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Last edited by v.w.dave on Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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v.w.dave
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1437 Location: The Hills Sydney
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 Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:26 pm |
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Here is some more from the guy that loves the cock...
ABS control unit, left speed sensor
G46 - Rear left speed sensor
G47 - Front left speed sensor
J104 - ABS control unit
T6be - 6-pin connector, grey, coupling station on left of D-pillar
T8ag - 8-pin connector, black, coupling station left D-pillar
T10k - 10-pin connector, purple, coupling station on electronics box, in engine compartment
T10s - 10-pin connector, brown, coupling station under driver seat
T47 - 47-pin connector
D125 - Connection 23, in engine compartment wiring harness
D126 - Connection 24, in engine compartment wiring harness
W75 - Connection 3 (sensor), in rear wiring harness
W76 - Connection 4 (sensor), in rear wiring harness
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v.w.dave
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1437 Location: The Hills Sydney
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 Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 7:36 pm |
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ball wrote: That may be a system that works for 1 manufacturer, but it doesn't cross over to others.
What about an O2 sensor. Does it have a g code as well or is it referred to by it's actual usage ?
G39 - Lambda probe
G450 - Exhaust gas pressure sensor 1
if its a TDI they have
G506 - Temperature sender before particulate filter
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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 Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:33 pm |
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:40 pm |
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the VW system sounds fucktarded...
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Joe

I live here!
Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
Vehicle: JB74
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 Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:43 pm |
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 sure does
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v.w.dave
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1437 Location: The Hills Sydney
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Its not easy to get use too but once you do its much better. The Id will tell you what kind of car its off where on the car it is and more.
Whats the matter shep is this a little beyond you???
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v.w.dave
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1437 Location: The Hills Sydney
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 Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:50 pm |
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Is that better for you shep???
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ball

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Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4673 Location: Katherine
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 Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:01 pm |
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atari4x4 wrote: the VW system sounds fucktarded...
The system would be fine if you had VW training and knew what the codes were.
Great for a manufacturer to have a system that only their dealers can interpret and diagnose, not so great for everyone else.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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 Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:01 pm |
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dave you are a bullshit artist and that is all there is to it.
mate i have been around some first class bullshit artists and it was a pinch of piss spotting you.
oh and why don't you respond to ninjadaniel's pm's ???
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:20 pm |
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ball wrote: atari4x4 wrote: the VW system sounds fucktarded... The system would be fine if you had VW training and knew what the codes were. Great for a manufacturer to have a system that only their dealers can interpret and diagnose, not so great for everyone else.
That's what I was thinking, I work on an apple mac all day & I can understand the in's & out's of most manufactures but the VW codes made no sense!
What happens when you want to change jobs VWDave? 
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v.w.dave
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1437 Location: The Hills Sydney
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 Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:21 pm |
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Well with as long as I have been working for VW I have never had a problem getting a job. Infact The last 2 times I have changes jobs its because I was poched from where I was. I have never been short of places to work. If you go read in the thread about what you do for living. I am a bit of a work-aholic and commonly hold up to 3 jobs at once. I have done a lot in my short life.
I am a good VW tech but have freely admitted a few times now I am not a good mechanic due to my narrow minded training. I know my VW training holds me back.
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v.w.dave
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1437 Location: The Hills Sydney
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shep wrote: oh and why don't you respond to ninjadaniel's pm's ???
Shit I read that on my PDA I forgot about it I will message him right now.
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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Joseph if you need to know any more about this stuff you can PM me to re-open the thread.
The rest of you keep this shit out of Tech.
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