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Jord
Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 196 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 2012 Jimny, Locked both ends
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Hi all,
Today with my 24 hour old 1.3l sierra i was driving and all of a sudden, stopped. Thought i was spark, No it was sparking, Fuel? no plenty of fuel... coil??? nope, timing belt!!!! garrr
so anyway im a bit scared as i have been told that it often results in head damage, but the RAC bloke said it should be fine... so i dono would a 1.3L engine have any chance of head damage?
thanks in advance
Jordan
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Fit a new belt & enjoy, thay are a non interferance eng, so unless you were doing 8500 Rpm, you will be O K ! 
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Jord
Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 196 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 2012 Jimny, Locked both ends
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Sweet!!!! thats a load off my chest
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v.w.dave
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1437 Location: The Hills Sydney
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steknig wrote: Fit a new belt & enjoy, thay are a non interferance eng, so unless you were doing 8500 Rpm, you will be O K ! P
As long as you don't have your head/block shaved down like mine you will be fine. there is a huge amount of room between the valves and piston tops.
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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yeah as every one elce has said..
unless its a twin cam then its fucked.
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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or...............
the cam belt could have snapped due to oil starvation in the head causing the cam to seize.
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Highway-Star
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4109 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: LJ80V-II (a proper Stockman)
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joeblow wrote: or...............
the cam belt could have snapped due to oil starvation in the head causing the cam to seize.
Been there, done that
Moral of the story is don't let people fix oil leeks on your engine with thread tape on bolts that go into oil channels!
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Jord
Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 196 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 2012 Jimny, Locked both ends
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 Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:56 am |
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If that was the case surly you would hear something, It wouldnt just stop and come to a nice rolling stop... i did find a washer inside the cover soo it is possible the last person who did it stuffed up and resulted in this, It was only one 40,000kms ago too!
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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Distributor is driven off the cam..........
How did you have spark with a broken timing belt? 
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Jord
Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 196 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 2012 Jimny, Locked both ends
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good call, Well i dono thought i saw spark, but i was sitting in the drivers seat looking through the window at the plug...
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v.w.dave
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1437 Location: The Hills Sydney
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want33s wrote: Distributor is driven off the cam.......... How did you have spark with a broken timing belt? 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
smoke and mirrors
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303zuke

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Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2447
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want33s wrote: Distributor is driven off the cam.......... How did you have spark with a broken timing belt? 
Let alone the fuel pump still pumping fuel???
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303zuke

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Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2447
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Jord wrote: good call, Well i dono thought i saw spark, but i was sitting in the drivers seat looking through the window at the plug...
So the RAC guy must have unbolted the bonnet to check for spark? 
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foolsp33d
Joined: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 2123 Location: Deep Inside Jamies Mouth
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Highway-Star wrote: joeblow wrote: or...............
the cam belt could have snapped due to oil starvation in the head causing the cam to seize. Been there, done that Moral of the story is don't let people fix oil leeks on your engine with thread tape on bolts that go into oil channels!
Yep vouch for that one to! not so much the thread tape, but certainly oil starvation causing the T-belt to snap.. Even happens on BRAND FREAKING NEW ONES!! HOW TO FIX... Make sure Head has OIL when cranking over, pour it in if ya have to..
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Jord
Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 196 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 2012 Jimny, Locked both ends
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303zuke wrote: Jord wrote: good call, Well i dono thought i saw spark, but i was sitting in the drivers seat looking through the window at the plug... So the RAC guy must have unbolted the bonnet to check for spark? 
screwdriver sparking on to block, but RAC bloke didnt check for spark, his a bit smarter then me i think 
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bj1910
Joined: Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 22 Location: Brisbane
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this story keeps changing more and more snapped t/belt but still spark and fuel this RAC bloke is tops easiest thing to do is pull the head of check valves piston tops if ok wind crank over to check bottem end is my thought no good slappin another t/belt on to just snap.
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Reubs
Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1522 Location: Brisbane
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bj1910 wrote: this story keeps changing more and more snapped t/belt but still spark and fuel this RAC bloke is tops
Gotta be careful taking everything said by 5 minute roadside assistance people as being correct - an racq guy told me 2 weeks ago I had a broken timing belt - my stepfather and I took half the engine apart in my Honda before realising it was just a weak coil that was the problem.
Also, anyone had a timing belt skip a tooth or 2 in a zuk before - had a Toyota do that to me once...
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Zachius
Joined: Sat May 23, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 152 Location: Newcastle
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Yep I have had my retaining spring on the timing belt tensioner fall down between the belt and gear and cause the timing belt to jump around a few teeth. Took me a while to figure out what was going on as it still ran surprisingly but not too well (as you might imagine).
As others have said if the fuel pump and distributor are still working the cam is still spinning and the timing belt is still working in some sort of fashion.
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Jord
Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 196 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 2012 Jimny, Locked both ends
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fuel was getting sprayed into the carb when i pumped the accelerator, It was there may not have been enough to run the car, but it was there.
but timing belt is replaced, car is running great, and no head damage...
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Jord
Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 196 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 2012 Jimny, Locked both ends
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 Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 12:36 am |
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oh and story isnt changing, as i said i checkd for spark and fuel, may not have
been correct but yeah RAC bloke only told me it was timing
so yeah pull the piss outa me, not the rac bloke, he was pretty good
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