[royce]

lol you crack me up, the reasons get posted as to why the rule is the rule yet you still know better

[atari4x4]

royce wrote:

lol you crack me up, the reasons get posted as to why the rule is the rule yet you still know better

He kind of reminds me of an angry version of Ferrit the "Super Coach".

[tanshi]

reminds me of my dad, but he actually knows what he is talking about some times

[royce]

atari4x4 wrote:

royce wrote:

lol you crack me up, the reasons get posted as to why the rule is the rule yet you still know better

He kind of reminds me of an angry version of Ferrit the "Super Coach".

There is a bit there, though the super coach is more likely to read a story of bracing one up and then replying with the time that he braced a tie rod with a bit of steel from teh harbour bridge they had down in the chook shed jsut for this day

[atari4x4]

royce wrote:

atari4x4 wrote:

royce wrote:

lol you crack me up, the reasons get posted as to why the rule is the rule yet you still know better

He kind of reminds me of an angry version of Ferrit the "Super Coach".

There is a bit there, though the super coach is more likely to read a story of bracing one up and then replying with the time that he braced a tie rod with a bit of steel from teh harbour bridge they had down in the chook shed jsut for this day

[JrZook]

tanshi wrote:

reminds me of my dad, but he actually knows what he is talking about some times

Lolz harsh to your dad of course!!

But seriously dude if you quite good at chemistry and metallurgy then why the hell do these comments regarding the RTA come as a complete shock to you. Too much herbicide in the sippy cup??

[matty87]

does anyone know what the stock drag link is made from id be willing to bet on some form of mild steel probably 1020 making welding the stuff just fine.

this is not to say i would be doing it on a car registered on the road.

[Fatzook]

matty87 wrote:

does anyone know what the stock drag link is made from id be willing to bet on some form of mild steel probably 1020 making welding the stuff just fine.

this is not to say i would be doing it on a car registered on the road.

It is definately a weldable grade.

[Jccck]

atari4x4 wrote:

royce wrote:

atari4x4 wrote:

royce wrote:

lol you crack me up, the reasons get posted as to why the rule is the rule yet you still know better

He kind of reminds me of an angry version of Ferrit the "Super Coach".

There is a bit there, though the super coach is more likely to read a story of bracing one up and then replying with the time that he braced a tie rod with a bit of steel from teh harbour bridge they had down in the chook shed jsut for this day

Yeah i don't have a chook shed.. My harbour bridge leftovers are under my bed

[steve]

matty87 wrote:

making welding the stuff just fine.

everything is weldable!

[Joe]

steve wrote:

matty87 wrote:

making welding the stuff just fine.

everything is weldable!

[tombutt]

anything is weldable if not just use cable ties and duct tape

[matty87]

steve wrote:

matty87 wrote:

making welding the stuff just fine.

everything is weldable!

Not everything is weldable what i was getting at is with 1020 grade steel it is not hardenable by heat treatment. sure you can soften it by heating and cooling but in relity the speed at which a weld cools in air is too fast for a real anneal to happen so welding it doesnt cause bad stress raisers. Other higher carbon grades and alloy steels undergo phase changes and all sorts of good stuff when heated and cooled and that is why subsequent heat treatments are required.

but like i said id be betting that those drag links are mild steel

[steve]

well i better not tell you what i've welded then

[TZAR]

steve wrote:

well i better not tell you what i've welded then

Same here I welded some alloy to steel once. it was just the bird shit around the edge sort of holding it in place that made it stay there.

Anything can be welded, but not by joe average but probably by joe blow.....

[Joe]

TZAR wrote:

steve wrote:

well i better not tell you what i've welded then

Same here I welded some alloy to steel once. it was just the bird shit around the edge sort of holding it in place that made it stay there.

Anything can be welded, but not by joe average but probably by joe blow.....

Hey my welds are ok

[ball]

Jccck wrote:

I fully understand that side of it.. I am quite good with my chemistry and metalurgy
But the strength added by the sleeve far outweighs any potential weakening caused by the welds..
Which is why i think.. Sure, it may be illegal.. But it is NOT dangerous.
I'm pretty confident with my welding, and for the intended application of this "Drag Link" i can't ever ever see it failing.

Honestly i'd be more worried about people with WT Conversions or new Spring Perches.. Having poorly welded them on.
Does noone care about weld quality anymore?

Where the fuck do you think a perch is going to go once the diff is bolted up with U bolts.

You only need to weld them so the pinion angle stays correct when you remove the diffs

[ball]

matty87 wrote:

Not everything is weldable what i was getting at is with 1020 grade steel it is not hardenable by heat treatment. sure you can soften it by heating and cooling but in relity the speed at which a weld cools in air is too fast for a real anneal to happen so welding it doesnt cause bad stress raisers. Other higher carbon grades and alloy steels undergo phase changes and all sorts of good stuff when heated and cooled and that is why subsequent heat treatments are required.

but like i said id be betting that those drag links are mild steel

You have know way of knowing if the average dumb shit that has picked up a stick welder from bunnings and taught themselves to weld, knows not to quench things.

Much easier to say no welding at all.

[matty87]

ball wrote:

matty87 wrote:

Not everything is weldable what i was getting at is with 1020 grade steel it is not hardenable by heat treatment. sure you can soften it by heating and cooling but in relity the speed at which a weld cools in air is too fast for a real anneal to happen so welding it doesnt cause bad stress raisers. Other higher carbon grades and alloy steels undergo phase changes and all sorts of good stuff when heated and cooled and that is why subsequent heat treatments are required.

but like i said id be betting that those drag links are mild steel

You have know way of knowing if the average dumb shit that has picked up a stick welder from bunnings and taught themselves to weld, knows not to quench things.

Much easier to say no welding at all.

actually you are very right there ill shut my mouth before someone does something stupid.

[Ben_Sierra]

JrZook wrote:

atari4x4 wrote:

I think you'll find that Want33s trailers his zook everywhere.

Apparently in some other thread it was noted that the Jccck/sierra/honda/flare-less/abortion mobile was used 99% of the time on tracks only...

AFAIK want33s zook is unregistered and never sees the black-top. Not saying that this new drag link isn't stronger than the original, just pointing out the big flaw in the "want33s has it" argument.

[steak_knife]

Ben_Sierra wrote:

JrZook wrote:

atari4x4 wrote:

I think you'll find that Want33s trailers his zook everywhere.

Apparently in some other thread it was noted that the Jccck/sierra/honda/flare-less/abortion mobile was used 99% of the time on tracks only...

AFAIK want33s zook is unregistered and never sees the black-top. Not saying that this new drag link isn't stronger than the original, just pointing out the big flaw in the "want33s has it" argument.

Wrong..

[eldo]

steve wrote:

matty87 wrote:

making welding the stuff just fine.

everything is weldable!

except coilies

[alien]

meh - my tierod and draglink are 1" crmo solid bar which has been threaded for standard ends =) its engineered too. lol

[royce]

alien wrote:

meh - my tierod and draglink are 1" crmo solid bar which has been threaded for standard ends =) its engineered too. lol

how do they join together?

[alien]

how does what join together? the end to the bar? its drilled and tapped... the bar has been hex'd at each end to get a spanner on it, but its not reverse threaded one side, so to adjust it you take one of the pins out, turn it and pop it back in.

[royce]

the draglink attaches to teh tierod factory, how does yours?

[Red89]

Suzistore highsteer

[Jccck]

ball wrote:

Jccck wrote:

I fully understand that side of it.. I am quite good with my chemistry and metalurgy
But the strength added by the sleeve far outweighs any potential weakening caused by the welds..
Which is why i think.. Sure, it may be illegal.. But it is NOT dangerous.
I'm pretty confident with my welding, and for the intended application of this "Drag Link" i can't ever ever see it failing.

Honestly i'd be more worried about people with WT Conversions or new Spring Perches.. Having poorly welded them on.
Does noone care about weld quality anymore?

Where the fuck do you think a perch is going to go once the diff is bolted up with U bolts.

You only need to weld them so the pinion angle stays correct when you remove the diffs

It could fly off and blow up the twin towers again.. Who knows? I'm not a mechanic by trade.

Bunnings?
Dude have you seen the $30 Arc Welders at SCA? LOL
My friend has one.. I can weld thick steel on 70-80.. He has to use 100(which is max) mine cranks to 140..
They don't make stuff like they used to!