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shane1992

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Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:09 am Posts: 782 Location: Wollongong
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Hey people,
Are all the GTI engines the same? Will a 1989 model GTI bolt in same as a 1992 model GTI would?
Thanks
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jake_
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 33 Location: Victoira
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I think there are three GTI engines, MK1, MK2 and Mk3. They are all the same block and will fit a sierra, if that's what you have in mind. You just need to make sure you've got the right ecu for the engine.
Check out redlinegti for all the info you need on Gti's.
Now be prepared for the Gti bashing that is sure to follow 
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shane1992

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Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:09 am Posts: 782 Location: Wollongong
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jake_ wrote: I think there are three GTI engines, MK1, MK2 and Mk3. They are all the same block and will fit a sierra, if that's what you have in mind. You just need to make sure you've got the right ecu for the engine. Check out redlinegti for all the info you need on Gti's. Now be prepared for the Gti bashing that is sure to follow 
Thanks mate
Yeah I am aware of the mk1 mk2 mk3, I think the Mk1 is in the early models etc?
I am buying a complete car, SO I will have all the components there for me.
Before anyone talks shit to me about a GTI engine, dont bother, Im not gunna listen, and Im not gunna care haha. Eveyone has there own needs, not everyone likes the GTI engine and same with other engines. Surely cant be any worse then thse stock 1.3 L Carby engine.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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shane1992 wrote: Before anyone talks shit to me about a GTI engine, dont bother, Im not gunna listen, and Im not gunna care haha. Eveyone has there own needs, not everyone likes the GTI engine and same with other engines. Surely cant be any worse then thse stock 1.3 L Carby engine.
that's alright... we already know you won't listen, seeing you rolled your vitara & now you're building a SPOA GTI Seirra. 
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SuziBlu
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4268 Location: Eyre Peninsula
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atari4x4 wrote: shane1992 wrote: Before anyone talks shit to me about a GTI engine, dont bother, Im not gunna listen, and Im not gunna care haha. Eveyone has there own needs, not everyone likes the GTI engine and same with other engines. Surely cant be any worse then thse stock 1.3 L Carby engine. that's alright... we already know you won't listen, seeing you rolled your vitara & now you're building a SPOA GTI Seirra. 
Is this jccccccks brother ?
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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jonno_racing wrote: i enjoy this thread.
lol..... u may have found a friend 
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mnemonix

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Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1409 Location: Newcastle NSW
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89 will be a mk1.
It will make the least amount of power out of the gti variants.
It is compatible with the right angle drive adaptor, but you will have issues using the 929 dizzy cap for firewalls clearance.
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crewsy

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Joined: Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:41 pm Posts: 579 Location: Perth
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BlueSuzy wrote: http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7799055/ Nah, the G13b will be alot better than the g13a/ba.  G16b is betterer.
LOL
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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mnemonix wrote: 89 will be a mk1. It will make the least amount of power out of the gti variants. It is compatible with the right angle drive adaptor, but you will have issues using the 929 dizzy cap for firewalls clearance.
u meen u will HAVE to use the right angle right??
the 929 cap dosnt fit on the mk1 stock dizzy... just thought i would clear that up..
also the power thing isnt it around 3kw??? i have raced another gti powered zook on the beach, he was on stock wheels and tires and there was SFA in it..
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mnemonix

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Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1409 Location: Newcastle NSW
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I thought thats what I said.
mk1 CAN use the right angle dizzy drive (I use one on mine).
mk2/3 CANT use the right angle dizzy drive, but CAN use the 929 cap for clearance.
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shane1992

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Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:09 am Posts: 782 Location: Wollongong
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SuziBlu wrote: atari4x4 wrote: shane1992 wrote: Before anyone talks shit to me about a GTI engine, dont bother, Im not gunna listen, and Im not gunna care haha. Eveyone has there own needs, not everyone likes the GTI engine and same with other engines. Surely cant be any worse then thse stock 1.3 L Carby engine. that's alright... we already know you won't listen, seeing you rolled your vitara & now you're building a SPOA GTI Seirra.  Is this jccccccks brother ?
Yeah done that doing something I wont be doing again!
No im not jccccccccccks brother.
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shane1992

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Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:09 am Posts: 782 Location: Wollongong
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Cheers for posts that were relevant to this thread, mnemonix, jonno_racing
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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mnemonix wrote: I thought thats what I said. mk1 CAN use the right angle dizzy drive (I use one on mine). mk2/3 CANT use the right angle dizzy drive, but CAN use the 929 cap for clearance.
sorry was just makeing sure!
also i made my angle adaptor! retail ones are ungodly expencive imo
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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mnemonix wrote: I thought thats what I said. mk1 CAN use the right angle dizzy drive (I use one on mine). mk2/3 CANT use the right angle dizzy drive, but CAN use the 929 cap for clearance.
sorry was just makeing sure!
also i made my angle adaptor! retail ones are ungodly expencive imo
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dano_mung
Joined: Sun May 17, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 237 Location: Brisbane
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mnemonix wrote: 89 will be a mk1. It will make the least amount of power out of the gti variants.
Not true.
An 89 GTi could be mk1 or mk2. As far as power goes there was no difference in recorded power output between the variants and besides which, none of them are gonna be making the same power they did 21 years ago when they rolled off the factory line.
The mk1s were actually a really good motor with hollow cams and some other shit that was dropped later on.
Easiest way to tell is if its the sqaure body and lights its a mk1 if its the later rounder shape its a mk2 if its an 89.
there are many other ways to tell mk2 and mk3 GTi's apart, but this is all on RedlineGTi for all to search for themselves.
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superduki
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 466 Location: Tasmania
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dano_mung wrote: mnemonix wrote: 89 will be a mk1. It will make the least amount of power out of the gti variants. Not true. An 89 GTi could be mk1 or mk2. As far as power goes there was no difference in recorded power output between the variants and besides which, none of them are gonna be making the same power they did 21 years ago when they rolled off the factory line. The mk1s were actually a really good motor with hollow cams and some other shit that was dropped later on. Easiest way to tell is if its the sqaure body and lights its a mk1 if its the later rounder shape its a mk2 if its an 89. there are many other ways to tell mk2 and mk3 GTi's apart, but this is all on RedlineGTi for all to search for themselves.
Yep thats right, mine is a built 12 month 89 mk2, but complainced in Aus 2nd month 1990!
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mnemonix

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Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1409 Location: Newcastle NSW
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All good info.
My bad. My '89 was a mk1.
I thought '90 was the changeover year.
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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about the motors.
mine is a mk3 motor, with mk1 injection.. it also has hollow cams..
it does however have a random watter nipple on the inlet that now does nothing  that does something on the mk1
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