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dono1

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Joined: Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:57 pm Posts: 566 Location: Mid North Coast NSW
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Will Vitara centres (5.12 I think) Fit in 1L NT diffs? I want to lower my crawl ratio on a budget. Currently running 31's on stock 1L running gear, High range is liveable for now but I am not happy with low range.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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 Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:27 am |
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Short answer....... No.
The 1L diff housing is too small.
LJ stuff will fit though 
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Sutho

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Joined: Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 735 Location: Scenic Rim, Qld
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Pwnd
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Sutho wrote: Got the answer to the asked question

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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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dono1 wrote: Will Vitara centres (5.12 I think) Fit in 1L NT diffs? I want to lower my crawl ratio on a budget. Currently running 31's on stock 1L running gear, High range is liveable for now but I am not happy with low range.
if high range is fine look at 4.16 transfer gears, high range (for you) wont change, low range will be a lot better though
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dono1

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Joined: Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:57 pm Posts: 566 Location: Mid North Coast NSW
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 Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:39 am |
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What about 1.3L housings? I have some of these to bolt up but they are 3.9 ratio centres and was told they wont bolt up easily to my NT.
When I buy T case gears I'm gonna get the 6.5's as I want to eventually run 33's or 35's down the track. Plus you can't get transfer gears for 1L transfers can you?
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303zuke

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Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2447
Vehicle: LJ50V, SJ70
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Only the 1.0lt Sierras with the 4wd light, either the metal dash with the light near the keys, or the plastic dash with the light in the instrument cluster.
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dono1

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Joined: Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:57 pm Posts: 566 Location: Mid North Coast NSW
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303zuke wrote: Only the 1.0lt Sierras with the 4wd light, either the metal dash with the light near the keys, or the plastic dash with the light in the instrument cluster.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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dono1 wrote: Plus you can't get transfer gears for 1L transfers can you? dono1 wrote: 303zuke wrote: Only the 1.0lt Sierras with the 4wd light, either the metal dash with the light near the keys, or the plastic dash with the light in the instrument cluster. ??????????????????
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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dono1 wrote: What about 1.3L housings? I have some of these to bolt up but they are 3.9 ratio centres and was told they wont bolt up easily to my NT.
Yeah if they are 1.3 NT housings with the 3.9 centres, then they will bolt in. The pinion flanges may be different, and the brake lines might be different, but otherwise its a fairly straight forward swap. Oh and you will need the 1.3L U-bolts etc also.
Bare in mind that this will make your low and high range worse until you fit the new transfer or diff gears.
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dono1

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Joined: Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:57 pm Posts: 566 Location: Mid North Coast NSW
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Thanks Fatzook.
Mine has the little light near the keys.
Will all T case gears fit or do I have to get certain ones? I thought the gears only fit 1.3L T cases.
Sorry for bein such a pain in the AR$& but zooks are confusing!
It seems like hardly anything is interchangeable.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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If your dash has a little '4WD' light that comes on when you select 4wd high or low, then all aftermarket gearsets should fit your case.
And don't worry about being a PITA. Jccck has that covered 
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dono1

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Joined: Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:57 pm Posts: 566 Location: Mid North Coast NSW
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Awesome!!!
So that makes the 1.3L T case I bought redundent
4 Sale 1 x 1.3L T case
Stuff the diff ratios bring on the rockhoppers
Thanks for the help.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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dono1 wrote: Awesome!!! So that makes the 1.3L T case I bought redundent 4 Sale 1 x 1.3L T case Stuff the diff ratios bring on the rockhoppers Thanks for the help.
sell your 1.0 case and put gears in the 1.3 case 
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303zuke

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Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2447
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shep wrote: dono1 wrote: Awesome!!! So that makes the 1.3L T case I bought redundent 4 Sale 1 x 1.3L T case Stuff the diff ratios bring on the rockhoppers Thanks for the help. sell your 1.0 case and put gears in the 1.3 case 
And there's 2 good reasons for that.
1. Your 1.0 case with gears will probably be worth more to re-sell than a stock 1.3 case.
2. The 4.16, 4.9 and 5.14 reduction gears ALL require that you re-use a gear from the 1.3's set of gears to make a complete set. The 6.5 gears replace all gears in the case, so the original can be either a 1.0 or 1.3 case.
Before you sell either case, fit the gears into the 1.3 case and change over your flanges/brake drum off your 1.0 case. That way, you will be certian your driveshafts will go straight back in. If you then fit the 1.3 flanges/drum to your old 1.0 case, that will again make your 1.0 case a little more valuable to a prospective 1.3 owning buyer.
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dono1

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Joined: Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:57 pm Posts: 566 Location: Mid North Coast NSW
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The only problem I can see is the 1L driveshafts are like toothpicks!! The 1.3 driveshafts are HUGE (by comparison).
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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dono1 wrote: The only problem I can see is the 1L driveshafts are like toothpicks!! The 1.3 driveshafts are HUGE (by comparison).
Very friggin strong tooth pick's tho..
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dono1

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Joined: Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:57 pm Posts: 566 Location: Mid North Coast NSW
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steak_knife wrote:
Very friggin strong tooth pick's tho..
Are they stronger than 1.3 shafts?
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303zuke

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Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2447
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Bout the same-ish. The 1.3s are hollow tube which is lighter rotating weight and easier in the factory to balance.
I've NEVER seen anyone twist up any Suzuki driveshaft due to gearing torque alone, only damage is caused by bending/denting the tube, of which the tube is more susceptible than the cast/forged shafts. Your 1.0 shafts will be fine, providing the splines are still good (otherwise you'd have replaced them already).
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dono1

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Joined: Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:57 pm Posts: 566 Location: Mid North Coast NSW
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 Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 7:40 pm |
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Thats good to hear cause i get a bit more clearance from the toothpicks 
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