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sierra_1988
Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:49 am Posts: 16 Location: western australia
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wires coming from harness: white= pos, black= neg. Wires from spotlights are blue+brown. Am I correct that blue is negative? Cheers.
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Scrawny

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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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yeah it does if they are earthed as well
got a multi meter? see if both have continuity to the mounting bolt, lowest resistance is likely positive
or open em and see
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sierra_1988
Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:49 am Posts: 16 Location: western australia
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thanks for quick replies.
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royce

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oops highest resistance 
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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 Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2011 9:44 am |
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Who earths their lights through the mounting bolt as well as an earth wire out the back?
And if I had to choose, I'd say brown was neg
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royce

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ive seen heaps of lights have an earth lead as well as a metal housing thats connected to teh bulb earth
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zook95

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Joined: Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:07 am Posts: 635 Location: wauchope NSW
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yeh as far as i can think brown is neg
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sierra_1988
Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:49 am Posts: 16 Location: western australia
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Thanks for the replies, guys, but terms like "I think", "if I choose", really don't give me any confidence. It is a Nite Stalker HID set, comes with wiring harness. All is connected according to instructions, but I still need to connect the Balck and white from harness to the brown and blue coming out of the lights. Could I do damage if I go "eany, meany, miny, mo? 
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fordem
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sierra_1988 wrote: Could I do damage if I go "eany, meany, miny, mo? 
Assuming it's properly fused - worst case scenario you'll blow the fuse.
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89_tintop

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shouldnt do any damage.. they just wont work one way.
I would work with brown being - (it is extremely common to use it as - )
I have played with few hid set ups that were meant to be plug and play but were far from it.. the little kid putting them together got the plug completely wrong...
figured it and got it cirrect with no damage to the kits.
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Scrawny

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Obviously the instructions don't explain which is which?
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lump_a_charcoal

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In 240v land, brown would be active, and blue would be neutral.
In your case, it may not matter.
Open up the light fitting and see where the wires run to, and get back to us.
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Scrawny

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lump_a_charcoal wrote: In 240v land, brown would be active, and blue would be neutral. In your case, it may not matter.
Open up the light fitting and see where the wires run to, and get back to us.
Don't confuse to poor lad with 240v land!! 
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stocker
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if you have 2 wires coming out the back of the light then you should be 99% sure that its not connected to the metal chassis of the light on either.
And lights aren't Polarity sensitive seeing as they are just a Resistor that gets hot 
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whincup

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stocker wrote: if you have 2 wires coming out the back of the light then you should be 99% sure that its not connected to the metal chassis of the light on either. And lights aren't Polarity sensitive seeing as they are just a Resistor that gets hot 
what about HIDs? they the same?
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stocker
Joined: Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:16 am Posts: 941 Location: Shidoni!
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whincup wrote: stocker wrote: what about HIDs? they the same?
Are you asking a question about the way HID's Work?
Or Asking About wiring them?
I am not familiar with wiring HID's so i couldn't tell you
as to the way they work.
This website should explain alot better than I can
http://www.essortment.com/high-intensit ... 12677.html
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lump_a_charcoal

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whincup wrote: stocker wrote: if you have 2 wires coming out the back of the light then you should be 99% sure that its not connected to the metal chassis of the light on either. And lights aren't Polarity sensitive seeing as they are just a Resistor that gets hot  what about HIDs? they the same?
No.
I would still be going with the brown...
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Rusho

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Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
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ScrawnC wrote: lump_a_charcoal wrote: In 240v land, brown would be active, and blue would be neutral. In your case, it may not matter.
Open up the light fitting and see where the wires run to, and get back to us. Don't confuse to poor lad with 240v land!! 
I posted exactly the same thing last night then decided to delete as I didn't want to cause confusion 
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dawsey
Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 218 Location: perth
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I fitted a spotty to my zook a real old 1 thats been in the shed for 20 years or so,, 1 wire out straight to a switch on the dash via a fuse then to the battery. simple .probaly illegal and my car will catch on fire,but it works .earthed through the mounting bolt on the bumper
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Rusho

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Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
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dawsey wrote: I fitted a spotty to my zook a real old 1 thats been in the shed for 20 years or so,, 1 wire out straight to a switch on the dash via a fuse then to the battery. simple .probaly illegal and my car will catch on fire,but it works .earthed through the mounting bolt on the bumper
I hope you only use your spotty for 10 minutes at a time. For the sake of $10-$15 get a relay and save yourself from a potential melt down 
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dawsey
Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 218 Location: perth
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sierra_1988
Joined: Thu Nov 11, 2010 10:49 am Posts: 16 Location: western australia
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wired up spotties as per "good tech" forum advice. Harness installed as per instructions. Red wire from spotties on/off switch to right pin on one headlight (looking from engine compartment forward). Connected seperate earth from relay to left pin on light. Changed pos and neg (between spotties and harness)as per previous question. All to no avail - spotties not work  . Will double check all issues over next couple of days/weeks and see whether I stuffed up somewhere.
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
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whincup wrote: stocker wrote: if you have 2 wires coming out the back of the light then you should be 99% sure that its not connected to the metal chassis of the light on either. And lights aren't Polarity sensitive seeing as they are just a Resistor that gets hot  what about HIDs? they the same?
Nope definitely not... HID's are not a normal " resistor " type bulb, they work more like a fluorescent tube/bulb, and the power supply they come with, could/maybe, be damaged by wiring it up with incorrect polarity... so best to right first time, and not guess... 
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