[SuziBlu]

royce wrote:

Once again, WA comes in with the dribble, yet you wonder why the east coast all think your hicks

Lockie666, attitude, adjust it

wodya mean, think, aaahahahaaaaa

X2 on the attitude adjustment.

[Moph]

royce wrote:

you wonder why the east coast all think your hicks

Who said we wonder?

It's a deliberate ploy to keep the east coasters away

[SuziBlu]

Moph wrote:

royce wrote:

you wonder why the east coast all think your hicks

Who said we wonder?

It's a deliberate ploy to keep the east coasters where they belong

Oi fukin, you have to be there for ohhh, hundred years or so before your a local, Mr im from the east, hehe.

[BlueSuzy]

Why is this in Suzuki talk?

[Moph]

SuziBlu wrote:

Moph wrote:

royce wrote:

you wonder why the east coast all think your hicks

Who said we wonder?

It's a deliberate ploy to keep the east coasters where they belong

Oi fukin, you have to be there for ohhh, hundred years or so before your a local, Mr im from the east, hehe.

Shhhhh... I don't think the locals are onto me yet

x2 on this being in Suzuki Talk

[Chop]

Kangaroo island has a few waterways regarded as pristine and there are platypus there.

[SuziBlu]

Moph wrote:

SuziBlu wrote:

Moph wrote:

royce wrote:

you wonder why the east coast all think your hicks

Who said we wonder?

It's a deliberate ploy to keep the east coasters where they belong

Oi fukin, you have to be there for ohhh, hundred years or so before your a local, Mr im from the east, hehe.

Shhhhh... I don't think the locals are onto me yet

lol just because you did a dirty great big drive, in ya suzi, an posted lots of pics, an made so many jealous, does not er, well, no rain, ahahahahaaaaa

The pic of the dogs larfin at a funny joke, classic hehe.

just think, by the time your kids kids have kids, you will be a local, yaaaaaaa

[SuziBlu]

brad-parker wrote:

would a 2inch lift (not sure on body or suspension yet) with with like 29 inch tyres get pulled over a heap on P plates if so what would be the biggest size tyre i could fit.

This was the original question, suzi talk, definitly.

[Ben_Sierra]

rexxar wrote:

might just be my luck
I have a 2" sus 1" body and 29" tyres
owned the car now 3-4 months have never been pulled over or even looked at
my STI on the other hand is on the VOI list im pretty sure as ive been pulled up heaps and on my 2nd yellow now lol

With the computers they have in the cop cars now, when the run the rego of the zook they will instantly see that you are also the owner of a car they have an interest it... Your luck may run out one day...

[Lockie666]

alien wrote:

Lockie666 wrote:

Yes, I will hold on to everything you say. You seem to know everything about the 4wd community, I'm sure I set a bad example for everyone. Has anyone ever told you that you are a dickhead? I'm pretty sure I speak for alot of people when I say, you are a dickhead

chris out of everyone on here you're the one making ridiculous claims and misleading people to think its fine to have an unroadworthy car. claims that put lives and livelihoods at risk in the long run, let alone the immature insults.

sure, im talking about the freak chance something goes wrong, but why wouldnt you cover for that if you had the opportunity?

what have I claimed that is ridiculous? I stated that it is illigal, i agreed. I just don't agree that the whole engineering certificate shit is such a waste of time and money, I have seen alot more dangerous ''roadworthy'' vehicles on the roads.

[alien]

vermin wrote:

Nah. We should do a "how much of powerlines can alien do in 2wd" poll.

you know what i actually like that challenge and think we should all go do it! it actually could be a lot of fun.

[Lockie666]

I'm pretty sure that most members on AZ are driving unroadworthy cars. I can see the reason for getting a certificate. I just think it should be alot cheaper for the general public... If the goverment cares about the issue so dearly then why cant they substitute the cost? I see it as revenue raising. As I have said there are alot more non modifyed vehicles on the road that are far more dangerous.

[Lockie666]

alien wrote:

vermin wrote:

Nah. We should do a "how much of powerlines can alien do in 2wd" poll.

you know what i actually like that challenge and think we should all go do it! it actually could be a lot of fun.

I think this is why you should drive a 2wd. No one gives a shit if you can drive a track in 2wd. I drive to mundaring the WHOLE WAY IN 2WD

[TryHard]

Frosty in here .. haha

[alien]

Lockie666 wrote:

I'm pretty sure that most members on AZ are driving unroadworthy cars. I can see the reason for getting a certificate. I just think it should be alot cheaper for the general public... If the goverment cares about the issue so dearly then why cant they substitute the cost? I see it as revenue raising. As I have said there are alot more non modifyed vehicles on the road that are far more dangerous.

its not revenue raising at all... have you ever even looked into the process of engineering a vehicle? seriously??? the government gets $80 from the whole thing, and thats taking it over the pits and issuing the mod papers. the amount of work they do before that in approving the mods etc is all free.

[Lockie666]

alien wrote:

Lockie666 wrote:

I'm pretty sure that most members on AZ are driving unroadworthy cars. I can see the reason for getting a certificate. I just think it should be alot cheaper for the general public... If the goverment cares about the issue so dearly then why cant they substitute the cost? I see it as revenue raising. As I have said there are alot more non modifyed vehicles on the road that are far more dangerous.

its not revenue raising at all... have you ever even looked into the process of engineering a vehicle? seriously??? the government gets $80 from the whole thing, and thats taking it over the pits and issuing the mod papers. the amount of work they do before that in approving the mods etc is all free.

So you think 1500$ is a good price to pay for a guy to look over your car and give some tests to determine of its roadworthy? I just don't see it being practical.

[SuziBlu]

Lockie666 wrote:

alien wrote:

Lockie666 wrote:

I'm pretty sure that most members on AZ are driving unroadworthy cars. I can see the reason for getting a certificate. I just think it should be alot cheaper for the general public... If the goverment cares about the issue so dearly then why cant they substitute the cost? I see it as revenue raising. As I have said there are alot more non modifyed vehicles on the road that are far more dangerous.

its not revenue raising at all... have you ever even looked into the process of engineering a vehicle? seriously??? the government gets $80 from the whole thing, and thats taking it over the pits and issuing the mod papers. the amount of work they do before that in approving the mods etc is all free.

So you think 1500$ is a good price to pay for a guy to look over your car and give some tests to determine of its roadworthy? I just don't see it being practical.

I will have to drive my toy 900k, one way, hire a private airport, "hopefully" get it passed, then drive back home, by rights, it should be trailered, an I think this is a wonderful piece of mind.

No matter what you think, the law is the law, an aint diddly squat you can do about that. Drive it illegal, ok, all Alien is saying, is the correct way to do things, as the law states, can you not see that.

I for one think he is doing wonderful job in explaining the correct way to do things, you, on the other hand, are saying, who gives a fuk, drive it un roadworthy, do as you want, who gives a fuk,

Wrong, x 100

Man, you really have to stop sniffing laughing gas for breakfast.

[Ben_Sierra]

Lockie666 wrote:

alien wrote:

Lockie666 wrote:

I'm pretty sure that most members on AZ are driving unroadworthy cars. I can see the reason for getting a certificate. I just think it should be alot cheaper for the general public... If the goverment cares about the issue so dearly then why cant they substitute the cost? I see it as revenue raising. As I have said there are alot more non modifyed vehicles on the road that are far more dangerous.

its not revenue raising at all... have you ever even looked into the process of engineering a vehicle? seriously??? the government gets $80 from the whole thing, and thats taking it over the pits and issuing the mod papers. the amount of work they do before that in approving the mods etc is all free.

So you think 1500$ is a good price to pay for a guy to look over your car and give some tests to determine of its roadworthy? I just don't see it being practical.

Well, an experienced engineer will want to take between $150-200 an hour for his wages. then add the cost of the workshop, the tools, etc etc... Why do you think $1500 is unreasonable..?

[alien]

thanks suziblu - considering the original post was asking about "what mods can i get away with on P plates" i think you summed it up well.

as for the 900k drive, i think its $12 or something (in WA) to get a temporary driving permit if the vehicle is unregistered to be able to drive it to a given route (which you advise by phone before getting the permit). So you can actually be insured on that 900k drive.

chris - yep, $1500 is a good price... he made 2 trips to see the build in progress and spent over an hour each time, then he had an argument with transport on my behalf and won, then he assessed the work in his workshop for over an hour, then he booked the track and arranged the driver for the lane change test, and he attended that for the 3 hours that took for all of us, then he wrote all the paperwork and issued the papers to me so i could go over the pits.

[vl2dy4]

If you want a cheap engineer that the DPI has approved call this guy:

Sam Rossi
Rossi Mechanical Engineering Services
0411133588 92919368


He is bloody good and quoted me $200 for a engineers cert for my zook (Engine change over and suspension). When all others quoted around $800-$1600.

Conrad Lovett
Bunbury WA

[alien]

cool man, good to know!
Thats obviously just the cert though right? or does that include inspections, lane change test etc?

[vl2dy4]

alien wrote:

cool man, good to know!
Thats obviously just the cert though right? or does that include inspections, lane change test etc?

That was for a certificate, and noise test. I did not ask him about lane change tests, give him a call and ask, he is really easy to talk too and will give you heaps of help.

Conrad

[SierraDan]

I'm on my p's. 2" lift 31's no flares. Just keep it tidy and don't be a dickhead and you shouldn't have a problem. I have two neighbours that are cops and they are more interested in how it goes offroad than whether my tyres are legal or not.

[MrRocky]

you know the stupid thing is that you can have a perfectly legally engineered car over east but you have rocks in your head if you think we could get the same thing passed here, they just dont want to know about it
Not to mention you could build a car exactly the same as aarons(alien) and they wont pass it cause the laws have changed.
I prefer to rely on sheer driving excellence, rather than gay insurance companys, if anyone wants some lessons on how to drive i know where there are some good roundabouts to practice your driving on

[brad-parker]

aahah this is quite entertaining. it will remain stock for a while or untill i can get enough money to actually get a lift and bigger tyres i will probably just do a 2" suspension lift and fit 215/75/r15 tyres, as this will be alot more affordable for awhile and i will mostly be beach driving aswell as everyday driver so to keep unwanted money exchanges like police i will stick to this plan.

[SierraDan]

Sounds good mate. Even stock with some more aggressive tyres will be awesome on the beach!

[alien]

MrRocky wrote:

i know where there are some good roundabouts to practice your driving on

ROFL =)

brad-parker wrote:

aahah this is quite entertaining. it will remain stock for a while or untill i can get enough money to actually get a lift and bigger tyres i will probably just do a 2" suspension lift and fit 215/75/r15 tyres, as this will be alot more affordable for awhile and i will mostly be beach driving aswell as everyday driver so to keep unwanted money exchanges like police i will stick to this plan.

spot on dude. drive the hell out of it stock for a few months and learn its quirks and handling, then chuck the tyres on (don't need lift to run them) - i reckon 215/75r15 BFGoodrich KM2 are the best in that size. My uncle runs them on his stock jimny and they completely changed what he could drive up! Once you save the coin again after doing the tyres the 2" springs will help with handling etc.

[monley]

SierraDan wrote:

I'm on my p's. 2" lift 31's no flares. Just keep it tidy and don't be a dickhead and you shouldn't have a problem. I have two neighbours that are cops and they are more interested in how it goes offroad than whether my tyres are legal or not.

Spot on!

[brad-parker]

would i really need mud terrains wouldnt all terrains be better as they supposably last longer aswell?

[Joe]

brad-parker wrote:

would i really need mud terrains wouldnt all terrains be better as they supposably last longer aswell?

On a zook mudterrains last ages i've had KM2s on mine for the past year (20,000km) and they have worn fark all