[joel]

^^^
??
can you explain whats happening and how and why thats good? is it like a simpler elliptical type scenario?

[Hybrid]

Looks like a stock front lux shackle to me. I imagine from the factory they mounted the shackle this way to get around the necessary dropped mounts (fangs) at the front to counter an underchassis shackle mount. Keep in mind that's just a guess.

[alien]

its not good or bad other than it would lower the chassis and COG by like 2"... you'd need to make custom shackles i would think.

[royce]

woo 2 pages of useless

don't remove leaves, it will be lower cause its softer, then when the leaves cant hold up the weight anymore they will get lower and lower and lower

rip em out, take em to a suspension place that can reset leaves (probably has a lot of trucks to work on) and ask em to make em 40mm flatter, doesn't get any simpler than that

[ajsr]

at one stage I was going to do this on my new zook, but it has a few issues with shackle travel when you really twist it all up, so I decided against it .
could be cool though

[joel]

ajsr wrote:

at one stage I was going to do this on my new zook, but it has a few issues with shackle travel when you really twist it all up, so I decided against it .
could be cool though

is it running 2 shackles on the rear spring?
or has it done a s/r to the rear spring?




yes im a simpleton.

[stockman]

royce wrote:

woo 2 pages of useless

don't remove leaves, it will be lower cause its softer, then when the leaves cant hold up the weight anymore they will get lower and lower and lower

rip em out, take em to a suspension place that can reset leaves (probably has a lot of trucks to work on) and ask em to make em 40mm flatter, doesn't get any simpler than that

That sounds like a winner. Thanks.

[atari4x4]

joel wrote:

ajsr wrote:

at one stage I was going to do this on my new zook, but it has a few issues with shackle travel when you really twist it all up, so I decided against it .
could be cool though

is it running 2 shackles on the rear spring?
or has it done a s/r to the rear spring?




yes im a simpleton.

jeoltarded

[alien]

resetting leaves aint cheap though... locally here its about $110 a pack from memory. i looked into it myself a while back. once set no one will guarantee it wont just sag anyway cos of the modified arch.

[Shansh]

who said doing anything properly is cheap?

[royce]

alien wrote:

resetting leaves aint cheap though... locally here its about $110 a pack from memory. i looked into it myself a while back. once set no one will guarantee it wont just sag anyway cos of the modified arch.

Its going the other way

$110 a leaf is pretty good, its a fair shit of a job even for us that can fix our own junk

[boostedbrick]

I was quoted $300 to reset four packs from a place in Townsville a few years ago... Probably gone up in price.

Id personally swap a leaf or two out for similar length thinner leaves.. What ever you do will eventually sag if you drive it..

Or reset the packs yourself if you have appropriate tools..

[shep]

seeing as there is a bit of tech happening is it possible to make springs stiffer with out adding lift?

[boostedbrick]

shep, I had some mains and load leafs made for the back of mine. They were based on EFS rears but made thicker and a tiny bit longer. Gives me the height and they seem to work well, even though there quite stiff.

[shep]

boostedbrick wrote:

shep, I had some mains and load leafs made for the back of mine. They were based on EFS rears but made thicker and a tiny bit longer. Gives me the height and they seem to work well, even though there quite stiff.

i already have long springs and they used to carry a load well however i have done to
many trips like this and they dont carry a load very well anymore.

[alien]

stiffer = thicker... you'll need to have them custom made. its do-able though. i was looking at getting a hilux pack made for the rear of mine using thinner steel so it would flex better - but once i got the price on doing so i was a lot less motivated.

[atari4x4]

Shep, if you want any springs made try this mob, they've been in the game that long & have a wealth of knowledge.

http://www.industrialsprings.com.au/index.htm

http://www.industrialsprings.com.au/leafm1.htm

they make a custom leaf for nissan australia to fix the dragging bum that the tradie utes get from being loaded all the time, manufactured by industrial springs & fitted by nissan all around aus.

[Ben_Sierra]

stockman

I've found some inspiration for your build!





This link is good as well: http://www.layitlow.com/forums/16-post- ... em-up.html

[BlueSuzy]

Alien, This is tech not so cal mexican bling.

Know anyone with a bench press?

Mark out the leafs at 50mm intervals, and eventually bend them with a few pumps at each interval, time consuming, but it works. Its how i reset my rear mixed corolla springs to all match and give me a bit of lift.

OR, Reset the main and second, then run the stock original suz pack underneath.

Mixing flat springs with lifted doesnt work, it will bend the top springs into quarters. Or this will happen: See pic 1
The main spring must always be fully supported by the second for a 4wd. Or this will happen: See pic 2

Flat Corolla spring + 2" bottoms

[joel]

atari4x4 wrote:

joel wrote:

ajsr wrote:

at one stage I was going to do this on my new zook, but it has a few issues with shackle travel when you really twist it all up, so I decided against it .
could be cool though

is it running 2 shackles on the rear spring?
or has it done a s/r to the rear spring?




yes im a simpleton.

jeoltarded

well played. hahahaahahh

[sogone]

Lol. It doesn't even seem like a made up word.

[stockman]

Ben_Sierra wrote:

:helloo: stockman

I've found some inspiration for your build!





This link is good as well: http://www.layitlow.com/forums/16-post- ... em-up.html

Now that's a great idea. I could bag it.
I could go one step gayer and use a oxygen tank as air supply.

[alien]

BlueSuzy wrote:

Alien, This is tech not so cal mexican bling

oi dont blame me, it was ben!

[royce]

shep wrote:

seeing as there is a bit of tech happening is it possible to make springs stiffer with out adding lift?

extra or longer leaves will make it stiffer, with teh same amount of free arch it will settle less once loaded (IE in teh car wheels on teh ground) so may be higher but probably not a lot

another option is a load leaf that isnt in contact with the main pack till the extra weight drops the back some

[SuziBlu]

Shep, do some fab work, get a set of torana front coils, and set them between the axle and the chassis.

Dunno about nowdays, but in the 80s when I was living there, near all the tojos had this, helped ride and load, mostly ride, but in the case of the light zook, load mainly id say.

[JrZook]

royce wrote:

shep wrote:

seeing as there is a bit of tech happening is it possible to make springs stiffer with out adding lift?

extra or longer leaves will make it stiffer, with teh same amount of free arch it will settle less once loaded (IE in teh car wheels on teh ground) so may be higher but probably not a lot

another option is a load leaf that isnt in contact with the main pack till the extra weight drops the back some

Really?

[royce]

JrZook wrote:

royce wrote:

shep wrote:

seeing as there is a bit of tech happening is it possible to make springs stiffer with out adding lift?

extra or longer leaves will make it stiffer, with teh same amount of free arch it will settle less once loaded (IE in teh car wheels on teh ground) so may be higher but probably not a lot

another option is a load leaf that isnt in contact with the main pack till the extra weight drops the back some

Really?

Longer as in pull a leaf out that is 3/4 the length of the main and replace it with one the full length, not chuck a pack in so long you need to hook it to a trailer