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BIGCAMMY
Joined: Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:38 am Posts: 22 Location: sydney, australia
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hi l am stuck between the choice of the new tough dog suspension likft kit and a body lift kit which l have heard is great and also the calmini 6 inch combo lift kit, has anyone used either what do u all think works better, do u need a engineers certificate for either, this is all for a suzuki vitara 1990 jlx.
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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What do you wish to achieve with the lift?
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BIGCAMMY
Joined: Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:38 am Posts: 22 Location: sydney, australia
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 Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 9:59 pm |
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more ground clearance and room for larger more aggressive tires, with more articluation
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:00 pm |
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the calmini bodylift supplied in there 6" combo is just pure junk.
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BIGCAMMY
Joined: Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:38 am Posts: 22 Location: sydney, australia
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 Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:04 pm |
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ok fair enough bt what about there three inch suspension lift kit with a body lift from else where.
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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What size tyres do you want to run?
Keep in mind the bigger you go the weaker everything gets so you have to factor a new front diff, lots of spare CV's, maybe rear axles, diff or transfer gears
Off the shelf the calmini lift is probably the best kit but nobody makes a great system, its all mix and match
Bodylifts dont seem to add much in teh way of clearance in a vit either so its worth considering other means to get clearance
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BIGCAMMY
Joined: Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:38 am Posts: 22 Location: sydney, australia
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l would like to run the maxxis bighorn 31x10.5
is there any parts that u can replace the factory ones with that are very reliable and near unbreakable.
_________________ 1990 suzuki vitara stock with big plans
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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My Vit runs 31's with a 50mm body lift,
old man emu springs, and 50mm coil spacers,
and some shaping/bashing/cutting of guards.
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BIGCAMMY
Joined: Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:38 am Posts: 22 Location: sydney, australia
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christover1 wrote: My Vit runs 31's with a 50mm body lift, old man emu springs, and 50mm coil spacers, and some shaping/bashing/cutting of guards. yeah l would much prefer to not have to damage the guards
_________________ 1990 suzuki vitara stock with big plans
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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is it going into a LWB or a SWB & what type or terrain/4wding do you plan on doing?
the alloy front diff can be replaced with a couple of different options. eg. calmini anvil/GV 3rd memeber or a complete GV steel housing & steel 3rd member.
cv's are the weak point if abused.
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BIGCAMMY
Joined: Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:38 am Posts: 22 Location: sydney, australia
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it is a swb
terrian is basically everything l go on the beach a bit, mud as much as possible and rocks and hill climbing occassionally
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Mistaria81
Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 175 Location: mango hill, Queensland
Vehicle: 2004 KJ jeep cherokee
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body lifts are illegal though, always have been...
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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BIGCAMMY wrote: christover1 wrote: My Vit runs 31's with a 50mm body lift, old man emu springs, and 50mm coil spacers, and some shaping/bashing/cutting of guards. yeah l would much prefer to not have to damage the guards Is only the inner guards, nothing visible.
But you can limit up travel, with eg bump stop spacers,
to save cutting guards.

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Bruce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4003 Location: Brisbane
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Mistaria81 wrote: body lifts are illegal though, always have been...
Now there's bullshit right there.
They are legal if you get the paperwork, fit the bodylift and then take car to Main roads for inspection. 
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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Bruce wrote: Mistaria81 wrote: body lifts are illegal though, always have been... Now there's bullshit right there. They are legal if you get the paperwork, fit the bodylift and then take car to Main roads for inspection. 
X2 WTF......................... 
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TheOtherLeft
Joined: Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 818 Location: Sydney
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Mistaria81 wrote: body lifts are illegal though, always have been...
Only for vehicles with airbags.
Did the Vitara ever have airbags?
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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i'm happy with my calmini kit in my vitara, although it does need some tweaking to get it to perform how it should. if you've got a spare couple of minutes have a look through my build up thread.
i'm running 31's with a 2" bodylift + 3" calmini super articulator kit modified with calmini GV front springs, OME front struts, bumpstop extensions, rear calmini 3" springs, commodore shocks + bumpstop extensions. the springs have settled nicely to about 2.5" with the weight of the 2.0L J20a, front bar, bash plates, rear drawer system & fuel tank guard brings the weight up to close to what calmini suggest it rides a lot nicer.
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BIGCAMMY
Joined: Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:38 am Posts: 22 Location: sydney, australia
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Ok thanks so l wont get the calmini body lift but l might get the suspension although with new control arms it has to be engineered yes so l think l migjt go the tough dog kit with adjuable shocks
_________________ 1990 suzuki vitara stock with big plans
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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TheOtherLeft wrote: Mistaria81 wrote: body lifts are illegal though, always have been... Only for vehicles with airbags.Did the Vitara ever have airbags?
More Bs, it depends on the sensor's...
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Mistaria81
Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 175 Location: mango hill, Queensland
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they r illegal unless mod plated, should have stated that earlier sorry, I only say this from working with DOT queensland. I see many 4x4's getting defected by cops because towner have body lifted their rigs and not mod plated them and comming in and complaining...
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Mistaria81
Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 175 Location: mango hill, Queensland
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dunno about airbags though...
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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christover1 wrote: My Vit runs 31's with a 50mm body lift, old man emu springs, and 50mm coil spacers, and some shaping/bashing/cutting of guards.
i run this but without the coil spacers, so yeah pretty low. have 1.5" bumpstop extension on the rear.
i voted calmini, but use the other BL. buy one from just cruizin on here. i didnt buy calmini because it was to expensive at the time, already had a 2" bl so would of been to tall with only 29s. i also dont have a steel bar/s or any additional weight.
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Bruce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4003 Location: Brisbane
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Mistaria81 wrote: they r illegal unless mod plated, should have stated that earlier sorry, I only say this from working with DOT queensland. I see many 4x4's getting defected by cops because towner have body lifted their rigs and not mod plated them and comming in and complaining...
Get it right.
There is NO MOD plate (blue plate) for a body lift. You only get paperwork that you keep in your glovebox.
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BIGCAMMY
Joined: Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:38 am Posts: 22 Location: sydney, australia
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shandy92 wrote: christover1 wrote: My Vit runs 31's with a 50mm body lift, old man emu springs, and 50mm coil spacers, and some shaping/bashing/cutting of guards. i run this but without the coil spacers, so yeah pretty low. have 1.5" bumpstop extension on the rear. i voted calmini, but use the other BL. buy one from just cruizin on here. i didnt buy calmini because it was to expensive at the time, already had a 2" bl so would of been to tall with only 29s. i also dont have a steel bar/s or any additional weight.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
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BIGCAMMY wrote:
I couldn't have said it any better 
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BIGCAMMY
Joined: Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:38 am Posts: 22 Location: sydney, australia
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Lol l ment to say but obviously it didnt work l dont have any added wieght other then a bull bar which l may buid in the future
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