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Che

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Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2401 Location: Perth
Vehicle: LPG 1.6 Sierra
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 Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:35 pm |
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The rear of my car sit about two - three inches higher than the front end, and it looks a bit strange with all this space under the rear guards and my little 215s. The suspension has been lifted already (by the previous owner I guess), and while the front is good - the back is a bit overkill. I'm sure the clearance would be handy running big ol' muddies, but I can't see myself going this route any time soon.
What are my options to level it out a bit? I have 5-pack King springs in the back, and a shackle link approx 3" from hole to hole. Being a noob i'm not sure if you can eliminate the shackle (seems like a 'must have' so the spings can flex a bit), but if I did I reckon it'd sit about right. If there's an easy fix i'll do it, but if it's likely to cost a bunch i'll leave it be.
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Lockie666

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Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1874 Location: Perth
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 Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:39 pm |
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Take a few springs out of the leaf packs. You could do it home yourself.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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 Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:51 pm |
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Can you get a pic of how front and back leaves sit? Like a pic of the actual leaves?
Sounds like you may have a 2" lift in the back only.
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Che

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Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2401 Location: Perth
Vehicle: LPG 1.6 Sierra
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 Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:13 pm |
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I'll take some pics when the rain decides to bugger off. You could be right BlueSuzy - that might explain a few things.
Any drawbacks or consequences if I take out a couple of springs in the pack?
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:45 pm |
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could also be heavy duty leaves in the rear (for carrying a load). when i had my 2" spring in my sierra i had about 1" more in the back than the front, didnt look out of place though.
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607CHA

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Joined: Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:21 pm Posts: 265 Location: Baldhills
Vehicle: 02 jimny
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 Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:02 am |
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Couple fat mates you'll be right. do you pull a trailer at all if not i don't see a point for hd springs. remove leafs just leave 3 leafs
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:38 am |
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Removing leaves allows the axle to 'wrap' more. What are these shackles you have? Do you have the same on the front?
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Che

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Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2401 Location: Perth
Vehicle: LPG 1.6 Sierra
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 Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:36 am |
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Can't find my bloody camera to get pics. Shackles are the same on both ends of the car though.
Here's an old photo from my Rigs thread, can't see everything but it's the best I could find:
Here's how it high sits with 215s, not the most recent pic but the best side-on I could find:

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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:58 am |
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thats exactly how mine sat... but you've got the extra weight of the tin top so it should sit a touch lower.
the 2nd leaf up is the one you'll want to take out... the very bottom one isnt really neccessary either.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:01 am |
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607CHA wrote: Couple fat mates you'll be right. do you pull a trailer at all if not i don't see a point for hd springs. remove leafs just leave 3 leafs
pick up a fattie & chuck her in the back, they need some loving too. 
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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 Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:05 am |
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I'd start by just pulling out the load leaf (smallest one at the bottom) and see if it settles down a bit
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:38 am |
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the flat load leaf wont lower it cause its not doing anything yet
next one up will though, its good for about half an inch
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Choppy

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Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1074 Location: sunshinecoast
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 Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:51 am |
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royce wrote: the flat load leaf wont lower it cause its not doing anything yet
next one up will though, its good for about half an inch
when i took my load bearing out it got higher ... until it began to sag
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:55 am |
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it would have gotten higher by the thickness of the leaf, cos as you take leaves out you shorten the distance between the leaf pack and the diff housing. its like the reverse of lowering blocks:
edit: wait that only works on the main leaf... nevermind.
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Choppy

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Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1074 Location: sunshinecoast
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 Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:09 am |
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yeah this is true alien but it actually got higher then the distance of the leaf.I think removing the load beairng increased the arc, they were some stiff as shit wierd riding springs which is disliked emmensly.
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shakes
Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 4895 Location: Northcote
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 Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:14 am |
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atari4x4 wrote: 607CHA wrote: Couple fat mates you'll be right. do you pull a trailer at all if not i don't see a point for hd springs. remove leafs just leave 3 leafs pick up a fattie & chuck her in the back, they need some loving too. 
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laurie

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Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1540 Location: Blackbutt
Vehicle: LJ80
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 Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:38 am |
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i would take out the second from the bottom
although ive just put mine back in
hit the bump stops too often on the quality roads around here.
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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 Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:58 am |
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royce wrote: the flat load leaf wont lower it cause its not doing anything yet
next one up will though, its good for about half an inch
Taking out the load leaf will make the others work more, this may help it to settle down some
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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 Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:13 am |
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Scrawn wrote: royce wrote: the flat load leaf wont lower it cause its not doing anything yet
next one up will though, its good for about half an inch Taking out the load leaf will make the others work more, this may help it to settle down some
How? Load leaf only comes into contact once the vehicle is loaded and sitting 'low'. At the mo its a good 2-3inch away from even touching the load bearer.
Che, start by removing the lowest curved leaf as that is adding to your static spring rate and height.
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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 Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:24 am |
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You're just thinking static JrZook. Not denying that the next one up won't make a difference, I just know with mine I destroyed 3-4 pairs of rear shocks from axle wrap after I removed the load and next one up. Just removing the load leaves may not do much straight away but after a while it may help the others flatten out a bit
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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 Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 9:40 am |
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Correct! I thought we were talking static as the rear sits higher than the front "as it sits". Many peps on kings are running only the top 3 leafs with no issues at all. Stekky is a good example and his gets used.
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