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agrajagzz9

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Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:16 am Posts: 42 Location: Townsville, QLD
Vehicle: 2007 Suzuki Jimny JLX
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 Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:12 pm |
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Hey people
I'm Adam from Townsville. I'm looking to buy my first car and I'm liking the Jimny. Currently I ride my bike most places and intend to keep doing so, the Jimny would be for longer trips around town and for camping and 4wd trips. A few mods I plan on doing are bull bar, 2" ? suspension lift, larger tyres, uhf, snorkel and roof rack. I would also love to do the conversion to m18a engine eventually.
I'm looking at a couple of cars in Brisbane at the moment.
05 "Z-Series" Jimny, 206,000km, $7,900
It has tow bar and roof bars
new clutch, o2 sensor, battery
04 JLX Jimny, 165,000km, $10,000
ARB Bull bar, OME 2" lift and steering damper, snorkel, custom rims
I'm leaning towards the first one, mainly because it is the 05 model with the VVT engine. From what I gather, this engine runs much better and is easier to upgrade to m18a. Is this correct? Not really bothered by high k's as I will probably do the conversion at first signs of serious engine trouble.
What exactly is the "Z Series"? Is that a new badge introduced in 05? is this different to JLX or just another name?
Since the car is in Brisbane, I need to get a friend to check it out and maybe pick it up. A couple of things to check for I've gathered from other threads:
"Death Wobble"
Rust in Jack compartment/ muffler/bonnet
Anything else to add?
Thanks
Adam
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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welcome to AZ, all our operators are currently busy, please hold, one of the wobble techs* will be with you soon.
*jimny owner
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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I think the pre vvt would be easier to swap the m18 to, as the 1.8 wont have vvt. vvt may give you tiny better fuel economy
Jimnys do have wobbles. Mine doesnt. 99' 2" lift but with stock tyres. No correction bushes.
I also think any rust in a car that new stay away from. again, mine is 99' no rust and its been offroad.
They go much better than a sierra onroad. the 1.3 is quite zippy so you may not even want the 1.5 1.6 1.8.
If i wanted to do the 1.8 conversion straight away, Id be hunting for the cheapest 1st m13a. yr2000+ model,
Never heard of z model.
JX is basic, vinyl, no powersteer, no roof racks, window winders
JLX is carpet, powersteer, powerwindows, roof racks
_________________ BlueSuzy wrote: I'm over the G16b's.
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BlueSuzy

az supporter
Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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Fair enough
Id still rather the m18 ecu as its programmed for the 1.8
Id also still rather the 4wd with the manual transfer shifter. 1 less electrical moving part to go wrong.
_________________ BlueSuzy wrote: I'm over the G16b's.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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drewmouli wrote: BlueSuzy wrote: Fair enough  Id still rather the m18 ecu as its programmed for the 1.8 Id also still rather the 4wd with the manual transfer shifter. 1 less electrical moving part to go wrong. Nothing wrong with the M18 on the M13 ECU, it adapts its self pretty quick, Ask monkey how it goes with the rear locker on in the wet 
You dont have any evidence to back this up though so its not helping the new guy one little bit
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agrajagzz9

az supporter
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:16 am Posts: 42 Location: Townsville, QLD
Vehicle: 2007 Suzuki Jimny JLX
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 Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:04 am |
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Quote: The M18 is VVT? how do I know oh yeh i have one Itle be way bigger effort to put an M18 into a non VVT series jimny. The M18 will bolt straight into a 2005 onwards and run off the M13 VVT ECU Thanks, that's pretty much what I thought. The intention would be to get the m18 ecu as well but good to know it would work without it. Quote: Never heard of z model. JX is basic, vinyl, no powersteer, no roof racks, window winders JLX is carpet, powersteer, powerwindows, roof racks
Yeah, I had only heard of the JX and JLX too. But another one I was looking at in Townsville also has the Z Series badge. They seem to have the same features as JLX, but I'll ask the seller if he knows what it means.
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Total_Filth
Joined: Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:36 am Posts: 146 Location: Melbourne, VIC
Vehicle: 02 Suzuki Jimny
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agrajagzz9

az supporter
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:16 am Posts: 42 Location: Townsville, QLD
Vehicle: 2007 Suzuki Jimny JLX
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Total_Filth wrote: Get a soft top!
TF
Lol, I would never get a soft top, not that I've seen one for sale in Aus anyway! no offense 
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Total_Filth
Joined: Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:36 am Posts: 146 Location: Melbourne, VIC
Vehicle: 02 Suzuki Jimny
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Yeh there's not many around.... I just bought mine. Love it so far.
TF
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atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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weren't the soft top jimny's built in brazil or somewhere other than japan?
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Z is elc window's, carpet, p/s, 4 speaker's & alloy wheel's... 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Oh, & it's a QLD thing...
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now I'm not so sure.....
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Glynn.

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Joined: Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:25 am Posts: 80 Location: Brisbane
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Total_Filth wrote: Yeh there's not many around.... I just bought mine. Love it so far.
TF
word up for another soft top owner
you won yours on ebay?
ifyou need anyone to have a look at a jimny in brisbane i can
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smis
Joined: Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 21 Location: Belgium
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atari4x4 wrote: weren't the soft top jimny's built in brazil or somewhere other than japan?
my jimny softtop was build in spain by santana, also europe samurai's (sierra's) come from there since 1993-1995
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Total_Filth
Joined: Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:36 am Posts: 146 Location: Melbourne, VIC
Vehicle: 02 Suzuki Jimny
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Glynn. wrote: Total_Filth wrote: Yeh there's not many around.... I just bought mine. Love it so far.
TF word up for another soft top owner  you won yours on ebay? ifyou need anyone to have a look at a jimny in brisbane i can
S'goin on!?
Nah not ebay. Local guy selling it through Gumtree. thought i'd snap it up. There certainly aren't many around.
TF
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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drewmouli wrote: BlueSuzy wrote: Fair enough  Id still rather the m18 ecu as its programmed for the 1.8 Id also still rather the 4wd with the manual transfer shifter. 1 less electrical moving part to go wrong. Nothing wrong with the M18 on the M13 ECU, it adapts its self pretty quick, Ask monkey how it goes with the rear locker on in the wet 
I thought i was in a drift car  not a tall, short wheel base zook 
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BlueSuzy

az supporter
Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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They hit the round'a'bouts. Like any car, hit anything fast enough at the wrong angle, it will roll.
_________________ BlueSuzy wrote: I'm over the G16b's.
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agrajagzz9

az supporter
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:16 am Posts: 42 Location: Townsville, QLD
Vehicle: 2007 Suzuki Jimny JLX
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drewmouli, does the m18 make much of a difference to fuel use? I looked up the Liana specs and it still says 7.4L per 100. I'm guessing it would use a bit more in the Jimny though. How much did you use before and after the conversion? I've read that they generally get between 7 and 11L per 100, depending on how heavy your foot is, and the terrain.
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squibby
Joined: Wed May 11, 2011 3:13 am Posts: 645 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: On the lookout
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I narrowed my search down to the 05 onwards because I much preferred the facelift interior. If I could change one thing on the whole car, I would have got myself the auto because the gear change/clutch action on the suzuki it truly aweful. But auto's are big bucks I think, I've only seen very new models with them.
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