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Aaron

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Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 348 Location: Goldcoast, Pac Pines
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hey guys just browsing though LROR and looking at shock hoop when i see what this guy has done to his rear spring hanger? looks like it can slide or pivot on down travel? anyone know what this is called and if it would be affective? (not that i want one looks dodegy)
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zukmeista
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1273 Location: Whangarei,N.Z.
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I'm guessing without seeing the front of the spring, but I would think that it is a reverse shackle setup, but instead of using a shackle they have used a sliding pivot to avoid having a shackle hanging down. Seems like a good idea but I'm not sure how well it would work 
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Aaron

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Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 348 Location: Goldcoast, Pac Pines
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zukmeista wrote: I'm guessing without seeing the front of the spring, but I would think that it is a reverse shackle setup, but instead of using a shackle they have used a sliding pivot to avoid having a shackle hanging down. Seems like a good idea but I'm not sure how well it would work 
you would have to think with it continuously pivoting it would wear downt quite fast?
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
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Yeah, I think a block of steel with nylon wrapped around it..... It's instead of a shackle. I'm not sure how well they work....
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pyrohamish
Joined: Wed May 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 331 Location: Fremantle, WA
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I would say that its two bearings running along a track which you can see welded on
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Aaron

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Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 348 Location: Goldcoast, Pac Pines
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 Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:57 pm |
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yeah i just dont know how effective it would be? would it still work it they still had the shackle up front? it seems like it would allow the spring to arch down more if there was still a shackle in the front
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RIKSTR

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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1278 Location: Canberra
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It a shackle replacement, I have mainly seen it on the rear of Jeep Cherokee's, its a good way to increase you depature angle so you stop getting hung up on rocks.
Seems to work well, from what I have read there is no real problems and they seem to wear well.
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RIKSTR

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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1278 Location: Canberra
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Its called a slider box or leaf slider

Last edited by RIKSTR on Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:08 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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2stroker
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2689 Location: North Brisbane
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Strange thing though, sitting like that with the diff hanging as it is you would think that it would be at the other end of the slot otherwise it has bottomed out already with no weight on the spring ?? do you know what I mean.
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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2stroker wrote: Strange thing though, sitting like that with the diff hanging as it is you would think that it would be at the other end of the slot otherwise it has bottomed out already with no weight on the spring ?? do you know what I mean.
Is the spring hanging? Could be on a stand that you can't see? The spring looks fairly flat too, like it's got weight on it.
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RIKSTR

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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1278 Location: Canberra
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True, but I think its sitting on stands under the axles
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2stroker
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2689 Location: North Brisbane
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Yeah I think you are right scrawn, I just enlarged the pic and it looks like there is a block of wood under the rotor on the other side supporting it.
But even if that is the case unless there is an elephant sitting on the rocker cover then it is bottomed out just sitting there under the vehicle weight
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
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I think the way the zook in the OPs post is set up is for fast work and not flex, the angle on the slider is facing up on the chassis.... I wonder if at the other end they have pressed in rose joint......
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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its a slide box that eliminates twist in the leaf spring, alot of the guys in the states were running this setup with there leaf springs for offroad racing back in the day and whilst it worked well there were some issues with longevity. Some guys used nylon blocks in there sliders whilst others tried
bearing setups. There is a good write up in pirate 4x4 somewhere
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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I did some reading on these a while back. Apparantly they use them in stock car racing in the US. From memory the shackle angle as it cycles changes the effective spring rate. The slider removes the shackle and therefore the varying rate throughout the range of travel.
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TZAR

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 Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:23 pm |
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Trailers run the same sort of thing. They are called slipper springs. But trailers arnt known for their handling ability though.....
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
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tzar slipper springs dont have an eye on the end, they look like this:
same concept though.
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zukmeista
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1273 Location: Whangarei,N.Z.
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Well actually you can buy trailer leaf springs which have an elongated eye to allow spring movement 
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Shansh

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Joined: Sun May 23, 2010 9:35 am Posts: 1816 Location: Goulburn NSW
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i knew a chick with an elongated eye once...........................you should have seen her peek around a corner!
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
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