Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:23 pm
rightO trailer crew... am i going to regret not putting in a flip top lid?
i've got it all sussed out & have everything ready to go apart from the over centre catches, i'm just thinking it's a whole lot more shit to stuff up.
i'm thinking about just bolting the lid down, seeing i'm not going to be carrying a great deal apart from a spare tyre.
this is what i got from the wreckers & some brackets i found in the bucket of bracketometry.
i'd like to still be able to use it as a trailer & having all the struts, brackets n shit will make it hard to make it removable, i'm thinking some sort of weather seal & bolting it down.?
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Mines just bolted down, with a weather seal. Though weather still gets in. But anything that needs to be dry travels in the car. Mines just 4 bolts and its off. Use mine as normal trailer a lot.
Spare tyre will fill it anyway. I don't put anything in trailer thatb I need to use a lot. And everything goes on a tarp, so I can just slide it out. You could try a big roll.slide out draw, that could be removed when camper top not on
I like the idea of removable and the idea of hinged for internal access. What about bolting the timber down like christover and having a cutout section on hinges for internal access? I guess the tent would have to be erect and it would just be a case of lifting the mattress for access.
I like the idea of removable and the idea of hinged for internal access. What about bolting the timber down like christover and having a cutout section on hinges for internal access? I guess the tent would have to be erect and it would just be a case of lifting the mattress for access.
I was thinking same before I got my tent top. But I finished up buying one with an insulated floor, of alloy sandwiched poly styrine. Insulation and lighter weight being main reasons. No way of doing that with this type.
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:13 pm
i'm thinking hinged, with removable hinge pins & a broomstick to hold it , rather than having all the brackets & gas struts permanently fixed to the trailer?
i think that's how Moph has his set up.... Keep It Simple, Stupid.
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I vote for the lift up lid, you've done this much work it so what's a little bit more The one thing that shit me with the blue trailer was getting stuff out from under the tent
Put a couple of tec screws to hold the strut bracket down, when you need to take your top off, Its as easy as taking the screws out with a spanner, same as the hinge side.
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:46 pm
Joe wrote:
I vote for the lift up lid, you've done this much work it so what's a little bit more The one thing that shit me with the blue trailer was getting stuff out from under the tent
the thing is i keep finding more shit i could do...
today i was thinking about putting a 12v power to it just using a rechargeable jumpstarter pack, LED strip lighting, the list goes on & on... but again it comes back to more shit that's going to get in the way if i want use it as a trailer & the heavier it gets.
i'm not planning on having to much under the tent apart from a spare tyre & maybe my toolbox, fuel, water when doing the longer trips.
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:47 pm
buzbox wrote:
Put a couple of tec screws to hold the strut bracket down, when you need to take your top off, Its as easy as taking the screws out with a spanner, same as the hinge side.
it's not a sierra... i was going to use nuts & bolts.
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Joined: Sat May 19, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 2535 Location: Perth
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:31 am
atari4x4 wrote:
i'm thinking hinged, with removable hinge pins & a broomstick to hold it , rather than having all the brackets & gas struts permanently fixed to the trailer?
i think that's how Moph has his set up.... Keep It Simple, Stupid.
Yep that's it ... I have three hinges on one of the long sides, with removable pins. Knock them out and the entire top comes off. I have 3-4mm thick self-adhesive foam seal strip from Clark Rubber around the top which does a pretty good job of keeping dust and rain out when it's closed up too.
Re the other stuff like lighting etc, I once had plans for all that too. Then I realised I'd be better off spending the time it would take me to set all that up actually using the camper instead, and lost all interest
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:14 am
If all you're going to put in it is stuff that you won't often want to access I'd just bolt it down.
I keep all of our camping gear in the trailer so I don't have to store it in the house plus we're ready to go pretty quickly. As you know I've got access on all four corners plus the tailgate and still find it impractical to not have a flip up lid.
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:00 pm
Moph wrote:
atari4x4 wrote:
i'm thinking hinged, with removable hinge pins & a broomstick to hold it , rather than having all the brackets & gas struts permanently fixed to the trailer?
i think that's how Moph has his set up.... Keep It Simple, Stupid.
Yep that's it ... I have three hinges on one of the long sides, with removable pins. Knock them out and the entire top comes off. I have 3-4mm thick self-adhesive foam seal strip from Clark Rubber around the top which does a pretty good job of keeping dust and rain out when it's closed up too.
Re the other stuff like lighting etc, I once had plans for all that too. Then I realised I'd be better off spending the time it would take me to set all that up actually using the camper instead, and lost all interest
what sort of latches have you used to hold it down?
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:57 pm
Sorry ... could only find a large pic in Google images. Ones like this with a relatively long shank so that they go through the 19mm ply, then the latch closes across the top and can be padlocked in place. Couldn't use the strap type ones easily with my trailer sides, so went with these. They work well and with sealing foam around them haven't let water into the trailer yet - note that they're located just under the edge of the tent skirt, so protected from direct rainfall anyway.
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:12 pm
cause of the folded edge of the trailer i don't think i can run that style of over centre latch as the wall of the trailer is about 50mm in from the folded edge.
i think i'll be stealing Moph's idea.
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Thanks Steve for great video. Out testing in Victorian High Country. No water got into tent or bedding. A bit got into trailer tub, though. Only problem off road was when I'd only locked one hub. Reversing ain't no fun, but acceptable.
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