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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:36 pm |
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yeah the axle length would be the killer when freighting.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:59 am |
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I agree with ball and HTB grease. My boat trailer has done at least 20000km since the bearings were done. It gets towed for 3 or 4 hundred km at up to 140 kph and then dunked under water when hot and the bearings still don't need adjusting.
n00b tip. Carry a spare hub with bearings greased and fitted and put it on a stub axle to keep it all clean. If ya have a bearing failure just take the hub off the stub and fit it or if ya have a spring failure tie the axle up and U clamp the stub/hub/wheel assembly to where ever it fits so ya can get to home.
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Bobsan
Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2012 1:30 pm Posts: 32
Vehicle: 2011 5door GV & 2007 Jimny
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 Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:57 pm |
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atari4x4 Freight from Melbourne to Horsham for a 39mm 60inch axle 2 f100 drums, backing plates etc was $48.40 4 sunraysia Rims and tyres freighted from Geelong was $65 Trailer components from Bigman Trailers $92 All up freight for the 5X3.6 trailer is well over $200 and I haven`t finished yet Freight for a alloy Tool box for the trailer is $92 to Horsham luckly this time I finished up with one from Repco for $157purchased locally no freight, spending Dollars never seem to end to keep the country running
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:06 pm |
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sounds like a cool trailer build Bobsan, you'll have to post pics when it's done. 
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:52 am |
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Hay trailer people, does anybody know if ya can get disc brake trailer hubs with Suzuki stud patten? Parallel bearings would be good as well.
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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 Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:29 pm |
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shep wrote: Hay trailer people, does anybody know if ya can get disc brake trailer hubs with Suzuki stud patten? Parallel bearings would be good as well. If these guys don't have it they'll make it http://www.vehiclecomponents.com.au
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 2:53 pm |
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zukenutter wrote: shep wrote: Hay trailer people, does anybody know if ya can get disc brake trailer hubs with Suzuki stud patten? Parallel bearings would be good as well. If these guys don't have it they'll make it http://www.vehiclecomponents.com.auThey can only do if I use a 50mm axle and very expensive bearings So will be to heavy and around $1200 for axel and hubs
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
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 Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:04 pm |
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shep wrote: zukenutter wrote: shep wrote: Hay trailer people, does anybody know if ya can get disc brake trailer hubs with Suzuki stud patten? Parallel bearings would be good as well. If these guys don't have it they'll make it http://www.vehiclecomponents.com.auThey can only do if I use a 50mm axle and very expensive bearings So will be to heavy and around $1200 for axel and hubs OUCH!!
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:40 pm |
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Has anyone tried electric brakes on a Suzuki sized trailer?
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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 Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:43 pm |
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shep wrote: Has anyone tried electric brakes on a Suzuki sized trailer? yep. Only because it is rutinely overloaded (1200+kgs) Why do you feel you need electric brakes?
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:54 pm |
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I want mechanical discs but they are unavailable for a reasonable price in 5 on5.5 stud spacing.
Sierras on 33 silverstones don't stop very well when empty, add a 500kg trailer and 100kph on gravel and ya don't stop.
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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You can use sierra/vit spindles, with sierra/vit solid rotors, and sierra/vit calipers.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:10 pm |
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jdk81 wrote: You can use sierra/vit spindles, with sierra/vit solid rotors, and sierra/vit calipers. Nope. Must be standard trailer parts as I am planing a fairly long(20000km) trip and have seen what happens to people who use non standard trailer parts. 
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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 Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:45 pm |
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Call Active Fabrications @ Beenleigh 1800 351 575
cheapest trailer parts supplier I know of. They make most axle parts in-house.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:14 am |
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Although I have not bought or fitted any, till money tree gets replanted, I've decided electric brakes are best for my trailer. Override? brakes have to be locked out for reversing, which can be a nuisance off road Hydraulic operated brakes, tho probably better, could be subject to more maintainence (I believe can't prove)
Discs appear better to me, and not much dearer, but its a common to hear that drums work better, though I not sure of reasonings.
Even with a very light trailer, I can feel it under brakes, especially down steep hills on corners.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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 Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:28 am |
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I think you'll find that most electric brakes are drum. I've never seen electric disc brakes before.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:39 am |
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I have cable discs on my boat trailer and they work fine. The options for discs are 10 inch hubs with ford stud patten and bearings. No f100 available in 10 inch. F100 in 12 inch however it is a $1200 axle assembly and heavy. F100 10inch electric drum with ford bearings. There may be parallel bearings available as well. I can't decide on ford discs or f100 drums. 
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
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 Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:04 am |
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Could the Ford discs/hubs be redrilled to 5 on 5.5? Or then it's not off-the-shelf trailer parts again?
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ball

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Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4673 Location: Katherine
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 Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:11 am |
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zukenutter wrote: Could the Ford discs/hubs be redrilled to 5 on 5.5? Or then it's not off-the-shelf trailer parts again? the studs get too close to the edge of the hub, so it's a no go there
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:16 am |
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Oi woggy can I get 10 inch drums with parallel bearings?
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:31 am |
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shep wrote: Oi woggy can I get 10 inch drums with parallel bearings? Does this mean 2 bearings as opposed to 1? Never seen any bearing set ups any different to whats on my trailer. Has a small bearing and a bigger bearing running parrallel?
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ball

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 Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:40 am |
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shep wrote: Oi woggy can I get 10 inch drums with parallel bearings? yep, landcruiser pattern
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ball

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 Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:41 am |
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christover1 wrote: Has a small bearing and a bigger bearing running parrallel? parallel has 2 big bearings instead of a big and small
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:42 am |
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ball wrote: shep wrote: Oi woggy can I get 10 inch drums with parallel bearings? yep, landcruiser pattern F100?
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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 Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:44 am |
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send em down to tassie & get jonno to redrill to suit.
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ball

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 Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:49 am |
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shep wrote: ball wrote: shep wrote: Oi woggy can I get 10 inch drums with parallel bearings? yep, landcruiser pattern F100? nope we have been through this
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christover1

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 Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:56 am |
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I used Sierra brake drums to convert my 6 stud trailer hubs. Not what you want to do, and I don't recommend it, but may help you with some ideas. Has not caused any dramas yet.    
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shep
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 Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:58 am |
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ball wrote: shep wrote: ball wrote: shep wrote: Oi woggy can I get 10 inch drums with parallel bearings? yep, landcruiser pattern F100? nope we have been through this That was yesterday, was hoping you might have come up with something.
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atari4x4

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 Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:24 am |
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can you get the hubs as blanks & drill your own PCD?
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christover1

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 Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:55 am |
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atari4x4 wrote: can you get the hubs as blanks & drill your own PCD? I found that available years ago, when camper was just a thought. No idea if you can, now.
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