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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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Dirty table  Where do you put the beverages?
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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31zook wrote: Neat work FZ! Thanks. And I agree with Ace. A nice tight fit between parts is crucial.
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Greeno
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:52 pm Posts: 90
Vehicle: 1997 Suzuki Sierra
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So did this just turn to a "i pretty much shouldn't do it cause i have no idea what i'm doing and i really don't want to screw up the housing i have" sort of deal. Cause thats what's going through my head now that's for sure!
So having the truss along the top without the knuckle gusset would be a waste of time? Is it worth me trying it or just finding someone who CAN do it?
I am keen to give it a try but the technicals and cons are bouncing around now that put me in my place of reality if it screws up. Thinking sucks!
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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Find some one who can do it. Wilsos customs. Twinstick off road. Just depends where your located. And how much you want to spend
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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Perth, WA
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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Your phucked then 
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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 Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:32 pm |
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I'm about to brace my wt front diff with the Lror truss and knuckle guessets. If you want to see if the wt truss and guessets fit a coily diff you can do a test fit with mine before I put them on my diff you want. Pm me...   Jimny diff braced
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Greeno
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:52 pm Posts: 90
Vehicle: 1997 Suzuki Sierra
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 Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:45 am |
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Hey thanks everyone for the info/help etc. I think that it would fit the coily axle but not 100%. Its not the biggest los of cash if it doesn't fit ill just resell it on, surely someone would buy them. So what about using the zook then? Reckon it shouldnt be used before i have this done? Or easy wheeling say just to get to the beach over some dunes etc, would be ok? Cause i will get it done but dont want to wait to have to drive it for that period.
Guess it's just my own risk huh.... Should have kept the bloody minitruck haha
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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Just take it easy any you'll be fine. Never seen a diff housing bend unless it has seen a heavy impact.
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Joshyboy26
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:48 pm Posts: 814 Location: kinglake, VIC
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i have 'cough' accidently got air in mine a few times. and my diffs aren't bent. mines a leafy might be a bit stronger though i dont know. unless you're really flogging it i think you'd really have to do something bad to bend it.
its not a really common thing to cruise out to the beach and bend a diff housing or two haha
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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Joshyboy26 wrote: its not a really common thing to cruise out to the beach and bend a diff housing or two haha
It is in a coily. Washout at 60kph = bent diff.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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Fatzook wrote: Joshyboy26 wrote: its not a really common thing to cruise out to the beach and bend a diff housing or two haha
It is in a coily. Washout at 60kph = bent diff. with massive offset wheel, it would almost be a safe bet.  i must admit, it looks farken tough as 
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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 Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:15 pm |
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Haha! Wow! Are they Dave's old rims off my car?
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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yeah, stole that pic from his build thread & he mentions that they were his. 
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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Yeah, they are wide. 8" -80 haha.
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Greeno
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:52 pm Posts: 90
Vehicle: 1997 Suzuki Sierra
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 Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:30 pm |
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EXACTLY my point fella's I will get it done as soon as possible. Still have to order my gears first 
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
Vehicle: <3 Edna <3
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If your really excited about it you could always strip the housing down and post it off to a fab shop to do.
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Ace
Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:26 am Posts: 127
Vehicle: 86 SJ413 dings / rust / 30's
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31zook wrote: If your really excited about it you could always strip the housing down and post it off to a fab shop to do. This is not really a bad thing even if you supply the bracing from LROR etc then its on their head if its warped etc.. Why not get a leafly diff and send both, get them to swap mounts and then brace it....
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Greeno
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:52 pm Posts: 90
Vehicle: 1997 Suzuki Sierra
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Ace wrote: 31zook wrote: If your really excited about it you could always strip the housing down and post it off to a fab shop to do. This is not really a bad thing even if you supply the bracing from LROR etc then its on their head if its warped etc.. Why not get a leafly diff and send both, get them to swap mounts and then brace it.... I was thinking about this but its off this topic so never brought it up. I wasnt sure if it is just a simple swap (not literal swap) from coil to leafy diff as im sure the ratios are different. Unless leafy ratio can go into the rear diff aswell. Or the coil diff would go into leafy housing but i was sure it cant so forgot about the whole idea....
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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Greeno wrote: Ace wrote: 31zook wrote: If your really excited about it you could always strip the housing down and post it off to a fab shop to do. This is not really a bad thing even if you supply the bracing from LROR etc then its on their head if its warped etc.. Why not get a leafly diff and send both, get them to swap mounts and then brace it.... I was thinking about this but its off this topic so never brought it up. I wasnt sure if it is just a simple swap (not literal swap) from coil to leafy diff as im sure the ratios are different. Unless leafy ratio can go into the rear diff aswell. Or the coil diff would go into leafy housing but i was sure it cant so forgot about the whole idea.... Leafy ratio is 3.7, coily is 3.9. So if you got a leafy housing swapped all the mounts over from the coily housing(good chance to fix the suspension issues to) , then get another 3.9 rear center(can be found from coily or 1.3 NT) you could chuck a locker and cromo's in the front of the leafy housing. This would be the best possible thing to do IMO. This way you can run a locker and cromo's upfront.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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monley wrote: Greeno wrote: Ace wrote: 31zook wrote: If your really excited about it you could always strip the housing down and post it off to a fab shop to do. This is not really a bad thing even if you supply the bracing from LROR etc then its on their head if its warped etc.. Why not get a leafly diff and send both, get them to swap mounts and then brace it.... I was thinking about this but its off this topic so never brought it up. I wasnt sure if it is just a simple swap (not literal swap) from coil to leafy diff as im sure the ratios are different. Unless leafy ratio can go into the rear diff aswell. Or the coil diff would go into leafy housing but i was sure it cant so forgot about the whole idea.... Leafy ratio is 3.7, coily is 3.9. So if you got a leafy housing swapped all the mounts over from the coily housing(good chance to fix the suspension issues to) , then get another 3.9 rear center(can be found from coily or 1.3 NT) you could chuck a locker and cromo's in the front of the leafy housing. This would be the best possible thing to do IMO. This way you can run a locker and cromo's upfront. Clowns. This has been discussed plenty of times before. You can change all the housings and mounts you want, but the fact remains, that there is NO ROOM in front of the axle housing for WT steering linkages, AND the Panhard bar! You can't run the coily HP centre and knuckles with WT CRMO axles, and you can't run a low pinion 3.9 centre with aft mounted tie rod and radius arms. If you want a WT diff and all the benifits that go along with it, you need to remove the radius arms, and solve the clearance issues with steering and panhard rods. Example: http://www.auszookers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8149&hilit=wagon&start=660Stop leading this poor bloke on. Greeno, just brace the coily diff and go wheeling already!
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
Vehicle: <3 Edna <3
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Fatzook wrote: Greeno, just brace the coily diff and go wheeling already! Word 
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Greeno
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:52 pm Posts: 90
Vehicle: 1997 Suzuki Sierra
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 Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:15 am |
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31zook wrote: Fatzook wrote: Greeno, just brace the coily diff and go wheeling already! Word  Done 
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ZukinLao
Joined: Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:30 pm Posts: 106
Vehicle: 98 Coily
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Fatzook wrote: monley wrote: Greeno wrote: Ace wrote: 31zook wrote: If your really excited about it you could always strip the housing down and post it off to a fab shop to do. This is not really a bad thing even if you supply the bracing from LROR etc then its on their head if its warped etc.. Why not get a leafly diff and send both, get them to swap mounts and then brace it.... I was thinking about this but its off this topic so never brought it up. I wasnt sure if it is just a simple swap (not literal swap) from coil to leafy diff as im sure the ratios are different. Unless leafy ratio can go into the rear diff aswell. Or the coil diff would go into leafy housing but i was sure it cant so forgot about the whole idea.... Leafy ratio is 3.7, coily is 3.9. So if you got a leafy housing swapped all the mounts over from the coily housing(good chance to fix the suspension issues to) , then get another 3.9 rear center(can be found from coily or 1.3 NT) you could chuck a locker and cromo's in the front of the leafy housing. This would be the best possible thing to do IMO. This way you can run a locker and cromo's upfront. Clowns. This has been discussed plenty of times before. You can change all the housings and mounts you want, but the fact remains, that there is NO ROOM in front of the axle housing for WT steering linkages, AND the Panhard bar! You can't run the coily HP centre and knuckles with WT CRMO axles, and you can't run a low pinion 3.9 centre with aft mounted tie rod and radius arms. If you want a WT diff and all the benifits that go along with it, you need to remove the radius arms, and solve the clearance issues with steering and panhard rods. Example: http://www.auszookers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8149&hilit=wagon&start=660Stop leading this poor bloke on. Greeno, just brace the coily diff and go wheeling already! Thanks Fatzook... I was getting excited there for a minute....
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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SierraDan wrote: I am unskilled at welding. Me to but i get by.could u keep cooling it down with wet rags and if u left the diff together that would help hold it together.
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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I said that to say, I am unskilled at welding but even I can manage to not fuck shit up welding.
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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SierraDan wrote: I said that to say, I am unskilled at welding but even I can manage to not fuck shit up welding. Got that  that's what I ment to.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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KEENSY85 wrote: SierraDan wrote: I am unskilled at welding. Me to but i get by.could u keep cooling it down with wet rags and if u left the diff together that would help hold it together. If you apply a wet rag to the wrong place it will promote bending/cracking.
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
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Any links or anything fatzook to some info or tech to learn more about it?
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Rusho

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Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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I'm assuming adding wet rags and the like will cool the housing to quickly, causing it to constrict prematurely. I think the norm is to let it cool 'naturally' for use of a better word.
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