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Hookdawgz
Joined: Sun May 12, 2013 2:12 pm Posts: 16
Vehicle: 1997 Suzuki Sierra
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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Yes it will fit the coil sierra - I have used the same body lift parts for a coil and leaf sierra. However, why not buy a body lift from a local supplier? Just Cruzin and Fatzook both have ads for body lifts in the business section, which are made here.
Check the requirements for a BL in your state too - I'm not sure where you are, but Just Cruzin's kits are legal in QLD and perhaps most other states, but are definitely not legal in Victoria. Fatzooks are legal everywhere.
The lowrange kit won't be legal in Victoria.
Steve.
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Hookdawgz
Joined: Sun May 12, 2013 2:12 pm Posts: 16
Vehicle: 1997 Suzuki Sierra
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Why will some kits be legal and others be illegal?
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Hookdawgz
Joined: Sun May 12, 2013 2:12 pm Posts: 16
Vehicle: 1997 Suzuki Sierra
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mrw82

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Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 1350 Location: stuck in a hole. not off road, just deception bay.
Vehicle: snotbox, 84 LWB sierra 1 litre
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Just cruizin does a kit with alloy block now to keep the crazy southerners happy.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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It's not like we get a choice or anything...
Steve.
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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Hookdawgz wrote: Why will some kits be legal and others be illegal? QLD allows the use of plastic/nylon lift blocks whereas Victoria insist you use aluminium or steel. So a kit with nylon blocks will be perfectly legal in QLD and make you a criminal in Vic. Don't know the rules for NSW.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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"Criminal" might be a bit strong a word, but it would attract a defect notice. As there is no fine or demerit points attached to this, it's more an inconvenience than anything, but best avoided.
Likewise, I don't know the rules for NSW.
PS the nylon/urethane lifts made by Just cruzin contain a steel sleeve, and I have no issue with their performance or safety myself, we just cant use them down here. As far as I am aware the low range kits do not contain a steel sleeve and I wouldn't recommend them, regardless of what state you are in. I am sure they are work, but I wouldn't run them.
Steve.
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just_cruizin

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Joined: Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 2867 Location: here
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My poly blocks for the fixed body studs don't have crush tubes as the female bolt acts as the crush tube. Same material as what's used for mobile crane baseplates, tested to 20 tonne.
_________________ greenzook89 wrote: 31zook wrote: Makes me want something similar
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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just_cruizin wrote: Same material as what's used for mobile crane baseplates, tested to 20 tonne. And somehow, still not good enough for VICroads I thought NCOP was about indtroducing common sence and uniformity accross the country 
_________________ 2013 GV 1998 SV420 ute
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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*sigh* - not again  I don't think what cranes use for base plates is relevant to what vicroads will accept. That's not a value judgement, it's just a comment. We're not going to change vicroads mind about this, and it's not likely to be resolved through the NCOP, considering we've been working within the limitations of the ncop here in Vic for many years. Steve.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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Gwagensteve wrote: *sigh* - not again  I don't think what cranes use for base plates is relevant to what vicroads will accept. That's not a value judgement, it's just a comment. We're not going to change vicroads mind about this, and it's not likely to be resolved through the NCOP, considering we've been working within the limitations of the ncop here in Vic for many years. Steve. I think the powers that be have just played it safe and excluded that group of materials all together, as there is no easy way to identify the material composition from the side of the road. Some grades would be less resistant to petrocarbons, lubricants and the like.
_________________ 2013 GV 1998 SV420 ute
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just_cruizin

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Joined: Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 2867 Location: here
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I have tried talking to the relevant engineers however to ones capable of undertaking and approving the calculations aren't interested in 4WDs and the ones who do the 4WDs aren't knowledgable enough or willing to qualify the design. At the end of the day the blocks are sitting on 12 to 40mm of rubber. The product I supply is an engineered product.
_________________ greenzook89 wrote: 31zook wrote: Makes me want something similar
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4x4xzook
Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 8:41 am Posts: 730 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: MG410 Gypsy
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hookdawz buy justcruzin's kit.
easy to fit and install with support directly from him. great product, great service.
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