[tassie jeeper]

hey guys i tried a search but it wasn't much help

iv ordered some 30mm springs and 30mm spacers and i have never used spacers before.
1: do they go on top of the spring or underneath or does it not really matter either way?
2: how are they held in place or do they just sit there?
3: any recommendation for bump stop extensions for 29.5" tyre with 60mm lift i was going to start of with a 30mm extension and go from there...?
4: some pics are always nice.
5: the springs i ordered are "king" and i have been anxiously waiting for them to arrive since i ordered them on friday and they have only been sent Today!! how fkn slack the spacers were sent on Monday not bloody happy

[christover1]

In a Vitara coil spacers go on top of springs, they can't fall out from the top.
30mm spacer would be best with 30mm bump stop extension,
so coil operates in same range as designed, in my opinion.

On front that is only a 15mm spacer and bump stop because the spring is inboard.

[tassie jeeper]

christover1 wrote:

In a Vitara coil spacers go on top of springs, they can't fall out from the top.
30mm spacer would be best with 30mm bump stop extension,
so coil operates in same range as designed, in my opinion.

On front that is only a 15mm spacer and bump stop because the spring is inboard.

cheers mate.
ill remember that on top so they just sit there?

i wasn't planning to do the extension on the front as either my springs are too stiff or the sway bar is the front end does not go near touching the guard even standard height with 29.5" tyres

i dont know maybe because i couldn't flex it properly before with the rear end scrubbing and once i fix that and the rear end reaches full flex the front will start to move?

i figured match the extension to the spacer to at least prevent over compression of the spring as it would cause sag over time the fact that u agreed gimes me some confidence in this if it still scrubs ill have to add more.

wow looks like u have about 2.5" spacers

[christover1]

Sway bar will prevent compression on front, yes.
It may soften up, see how it goes.
The spacer is a tight fit over the protrusion, so it will just sit there.

I like to keep travel close to the engineers design, either Suzukis,
or in my case Old Man Emu, its just moved.

[Ausuki]

hey tassie

any chance of posting up the ID & OD of you spacers when they arrive,
cheers mate

[tassie jeeper]

christover1 wrote:

Sway bar will prevent compression on front, yes.
It may soften up, see how it goes.
The spacer is a tight fit over the protrusion, so it will just sit there.

I like to keep travel close to the engineers design, either Suzukis,
or in my case Old Man Emu, its just moved.

i may leave the front as is then bar the springs and spacers then and see what happens, cheers

Ausuki wrote:

hey tassie

any chance of posting up the ID & OD of you spacers when they arrive,
cheers mate

hey aussie i can do that for u now they have the measurements on ebay.

Will raise your vehicle by 30mm Front and Rear.
2 x Front 15mm AND 2 x Rear 30mm.
OD 108mm and ID 65mm
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/380157088817 ... 1439.l2649

however i can not tell u if that is the same front to rear or not until i receive them probably next friday

[SierraDan]

So for say a 50mm lift. 50mm spacers in the rear and 25mm in the front for equal lift?

[atari4x4]

there abouts, i reckon 50mm & 30-35mm for the front to get it sitting level as the spring isn't exactly 1/2 along the control arm... it's further out towards the balljoint, but in saying that i've never messed around with them.

[tassie jeeper]

SierraDan wrote:

So for say a 50mm lift. 50mm spacers in the rear and 25mm in the front for equal lift?

the rear needs double the lift the front needs (@ the springs) to get the same amount of height at the wheels if this makes sence.

if u get 2" Lift springs the front ones are more than likely only 1" longer than stock

its all to do with the ifs and how the leverage works

[Ausuki]

thanks mate

[christover1]

SierraDan wrote:

So for say a 50mm lift. 50mm spacers in the rear and 25mm in the front for equal lift?

Depends on the car.
IE where the springs are.
On a Vit the front are well underneath, so 15mm at spring, gives 30mm at wheel.
But at the back, spring is close to wheel, so 30mm is 30mm.

[tassie jeeper]

christover1 wrote:

SierraDan wrote:

So for say a 50mm lift. 50mm spacers in the rear and 25mm in the front for equal lift?

Depends on the car.
IE where the springs are.
On a Vit the front are well underneath, so 15mm at spring, gives 30mm at wheel.
But at the back, spring is close to wheel, so 30mm is 30mm.

i was trying to say that u did a much better job of explaining it tho

[atari4x4]

reference pic of the location of the spring seat on calmini arms & SV Vitara arms, the SE arms are slightly different but the spring sits in about the same spot from memory.

[SierraDan]

Sweet.
Are the spacers same dimensions front to back? Disregarding height.

[tassie jeeper]

SierraDan wrote:

Sweet.
Are the spacers same dimensions front to back? Disregarding height.

spacers are identical front to rear only the rear are twice as thick

how do i put these on the front i undone the strut expecting the wishbone to just drop out of the way and to say the least it did not,
will the wishbone drop further if i disconnect the front sway bar or will i need spring compressors?
also is there an adjustment for the steering stops? i could not find 1 and i need to limit my steering lock to stop the tyres hitting the chassis on full lock.

[Ausuki]

front sway and it you need more bottom ball joint is only 3 bolts
steering look is on the pitman arm ??

[atari4x4]

Can't unbolt the ball joints on a sv as pictured above, you'll need to separate the ball joint from the taper if you can't get it by removing the swaybar.

Steering stops are on the chassis & pitman arm.

[tassie jeeper]

atari4x4 wrote:

Can't unbolt the ball joints on a sv as pictured above, you'll need to separate the ball joint from the taper if you can't get it by removing the swaybar.

thanks atari ill try just the sway bar and if i cant get it then ill go with the spring compressor (a friend has 1 i can use)

atari4x4 wrote:

Steering stops are on the chassis & pitman arm.

cheers mate the jeep has them on the knuckles so i was looking around there and couldnt find anything

ill wait until the springs come now since its such a pain was gonna throw the spacers in until they got here but its such a pita i dont wanna do it twice rear end will be easy just undo the shocks and will drop straight down

[got_bar_work]

i drop the chassis end of the arm.
it lets u drop it down heaps more .

[tassie jeeper]

hey guys update coils and spacers fitted now sitting 2.5" higher also fitted 30mm bump stop extensions (in rear only) and flexed it up to check it at full compression and squashing the bump stop i have about half inch of clearance from my side lugs on tyre to the lip on the inner side of my wheel arch (29.5 x 9.5 standard rims and 2.5" lift and 30mm bump stop extensions) i also have about 2 foot of flex with standard shocks will go hunting for some shocks that are a little longer later on i think VL shocks will be too long and bottom out before my bump stops.

pictures on my rig page:
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=41421

[Ausuki]

today i found out that xj cherokee coil spacers with fit a vitara with a bit of minor trimming (of the spacer)

[tassie jeeper]

Ausuki wrote:

today i found out that xj cherokee coil spacers with fit a vitara with a bit of minor trimming (of the spacer)

thats good to know i was looking into this before.
just remember the rear spacers on the vitara need to be twice as thick as the front to give an even lift
fit spacers to the rear the exact height u want to lift the car and put spacers in the front exactly half that size