[atari4x4]

karlmarkiewicz wrote:

Alright Guys, i think I have found something.

I followed what Atari said and I just drove my car normally without removing the battery for about a week, just to see if any more error codes came up... And one did!
I am currently at work so it is a bit difficult for me to upload the video of the error code, but this is the one and only code pattern i am getting: blink *pause* blink-blink-blink

Now, the way i understood the manual that Atari posted, this error code pattern would equal a code 13. Which, i think, is a HO2S problem (see the attached image for the part of the table i read).



Could you guys please confirm this error code with me, and maybe tell me what parts need to be replaced? I will post video when i get home.

Thank you so much!!

BINGO, you have a lazy o2 sensor.

[karlmarkiewicz]

atari4x4 wrote:

BINGO, you have a lazy o2 sensor.

Awesome! Somehow im actually glad something is wrong with my car, hahaha.

Here is the video of the error code: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pbev_Al3 ... e=youtu.be

If you could check it to double check it's definitely an O2 sensor?

Thank you!

[atari4x4]

yeah error code No. 13

EDIT: and 2 of these should sort you out http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/230649793196 ... 1423.l2649

[karlmarkiewicz]

atari4x4 wrote:

yeah error code No. 13

EDIT: and 2 of these should sort you out http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/230649793196 ... 1423.l2649

Awesome, thanks for that. Don't wanna sound cheap, but do they get much cheaper that $100 without having to modify your car or buy adapters?
Thanks again.

[atari4x4]

get price for a genuine one from suzuki

unless you've got a hookup at an auto store & can get trade prices, that's a pretty good price

non-genuine from suzistore $195 http://www.suzistore.com.au/onlinestore ... etail.html

[Sco-tie]

A new batch of fuel will take a few cycles to get the true efficiency figures from it one tank won;t give any difference. I keep logs of all my driving and have tested each type of fuel for at least 3 tanks in a row with a buffer in between to get the true figures and found that BP98 gets me the most +50ks per tank which oddly enough is opposite to atari. Just fork out for new O2 sensors they are worth it and need to be replaced anyway as maintenance. They will pay for themselves in a month easily.

[karlmarkiewicz]

atari4x4 wrote:

get price for a genuine one from suzuki

unless you've got a hookup at an auto store & can get trade prices, that's a pretty good price

At repco i can get one for $122, because i get a 20% discount with my RACQ card. Is that a good deal?

Sco-tie wrote:

A new batch of fuel will take a few cycles to get the true efficiency figures from it one tank won;t give any difference. I keep logs of all my driving and have tested each type of fuel for at least 3 tanks in a row with a buffer in between to get the true figures and found that BP98 gets me the most +50ks per tank which oddly enough is opposite to atari. Just fork out for new O2 sensors they are worth it and need to be replaced anyway as maintenance. They will pay for themselves in a month easily.

Ohh, okay. Well i did one full tank of 98, then once it got half way i topped it back up with 98, then when that was full i filled it with 91. Not sure if that was enough to show the true efficiency, but it wasn't a huge difference. I will trial it again but more tanks.

Thanks for the input guys!

[tassie jeeper]

my experiences with the 2.0v6:
it was totally stock when i bought it and promptly changed the oil to 5W30 and put in a genuine oil filter and binned the crappy ryco (this is important)
i put a k&N style pod filter (i dont like mud bogging and prefer to play on the sand/rocks) and a 2" muffler

with the above setup i was getting 500-600km's out of 55L on a side note do these things have a fuel light i drove it on empty for a week and it never came on...? also how big are the tanks?

i have now fitted 30" tyres and 2.5" lift and am waiting to use a full tank to know how much fuel i will be using now.

my 2.0 did not like 98 octane i usually run it in everything but found the zook ran best on premo (95 octane)

as said above some things to check:
spark plugs
fuel filter/pump
air filter
injectors
o2 sensors
throttle position sensors
have not learned enough about these motors yet to know if they have a cam position sensor? if so that should also be checked

best of luck with it and keep us posted

[atari4x4]

he's pretty much replaced everything in that list apart from TPS, which would be rare to fail & the o2 Sensors which has been diagnosed as the problem.

slightly off topic, there is no fuel light & about 60 usable litres

[tassie jeeper]

atari4x4 wrote:

he's pretty much replaced everything in that list apart from TPS, which would be rare to fail & the o2 Sensors which has been diagnosed as the problem.

slightly off topic, there is no fuel light & about 60 usable litres

cheers atari no fuel light is weird and will take some getting used to however even filling up from E its usually 50L so that gives u 10L spare to play with

[karlmarkiewicz]

tassie jeeper wrote:

my experiences with the 2.0v6:
it was totally stock when i bought it and promptly changed the oil to 5W30 and put in a genuine oil filter and binned the crappy ryco (this is important)
i put a k&N style pod filter (i dont like mud bogging and prefer to play on the sand/rocks) and a 2" muffler

with the above setup i was getting 500-600km's out of 55L on a side note do these things have a fuel light i drove it on empty for a week and it never came on...? also how big are the tanks?

i have now fitted 30" tyres and 2.5" lift and am waiting to use a full tank to know how much fuel i will be using now.

my 2.0 did not like 98 octane i usually run it in everything but found the zook ran best on premo (95 octane)

as said above some things to check:
spark plugs
fuel filter/pump
air filter
injectors
o2 sensors
throttle position sensors
have not learned enough about these motors yet to know if they have a cam position sensor? if so that should also be checked

best of luck with it and keep us posted

Yeah, as atari said, pretty much replaced all those things. Going to replace the O2S soon. 500kms is RIDICULOUS. At best i can get 350km to 60L Tank.

atari4x4 wrote:

Holy SH** 478km to a full tank, and your car is probably heavier than mine. WOW

Hopefully one more question, apparently my car has to O2 sensors. I have found one which i believe is the O2 sensor BEFORE my cat converter (because it is virtually in the engine bay). But i CANNOT for the life of my find the other sensor. Could someone please enlighten me? Thanks
Ps. sorry if there is already a thread about the O2 sensors in these Vits.

[atari4x4]

One on each back of cylinders.

That fuel useage was with my chunky 31" retreads on, plus all the mods done to my silver SV430 SWB & a lazy o2 sensor + it was manual, my auto with the same set up drinks like a camel!

[karlmarkiewicz]

atari4x4 wrote:

One on each back of cylinders.

That fuel useage was with my chunky 31" retreads on, plus all the mods done to my silver SV430 SWB & a lazy o2 sensor + it was manual, my auto with the same set up drinks like a camel!

I Found it!!! Thank you!

Ohh okay. So that picture wasn't of your Blue vit?

shandy92 wrote:

i get 360km from a 32L refil ahah, thats not on dead empty either

Holy S**t!

[karlmarkiewicz]

So Atari (or anyone else) do i need two sensors or is just one of them shot?

[shandy92]

karlmarkiewicz wrote:

So Atari (or anyone else) do i need two sensors or is just one of them shot?

might as well do both, save you having to trouble shoot the same issue next time. even keep the one that hasnt failed for a spare in the bush

[atari4x4]

shandy92 wrote:

karlmarkiewicz wrote:

So Atari (or anyone else) do i need two sensors or is just one of them shot?

might as well do both, save you having to trouble shoot the same issue next time. even keep the one that hasnt failed for a spare in the bush

+1

you'll probably find that the other one will die shortly.

[karlmarkiewicz]

atari4x4 wrote:

shandy92 wrote:

karlmarkiewicz wrote:

So Atari (or anyone else) do i need two sensors or is just one of them shot?

might as well do both, save you having to trouble shoot the same issue next time. even keep the one that hasnt failed for a spare in the bush

+1

you'll probably find that the other one will die shortly.

Yeah, good idea. Is there a way of telling which sensor is faulty? The table say Bank 1 which is meaningless to me.

[karlmarkiewicz]

tassie jeeper wrote:

i flushed the oil put the new 5W30 in and ditched the ryco for a genuine suz filter problem 90% solved just like that.

Slightly unrelated, but should i be running 5W30 oil for my engine, it's a 2.0L V6 with 150,000kms? I have been running 20W30 because the manual said to, is this bad?

[atari4x4]

I think bank 1 is LHS (passenger side when looking from the front) it's in the factory service manual somewhere, will dig it out when I get the chance.

[atari4x4]

karlmarkiewicz wrote:

tassie jeeper wrote:

i flushed the oil put the new 5W30 in and ditched the ryco for a genuine suz filter problem 90% solved just like that.

Slightly unrelated, but should i be running 5W30 oil for my engine, it's a 2.0L V6 with 150,000kms? I have been running 20W30 because the manual said to, is this bad?

i used 10w/40 as i found the 5w/30 too thin, fair bit of discussion in this thread about the H25a V6 in the GV which is essentially the same as the H20a. viewtopic.php?f=5&t=40667&hilit=v6+oil

[karlmarkiewicz]

atari4x4 wrote:

I think bank 1 is LHS (passenger side when looking from the front) it's in the factory service manual somewhere, will dig it out when I get the chance.

Ahh okay, yeah i just wanted to know which one to throw.

atari4x4 wrote:

i used 10w/40 as i found the 5w/30 too thin, fair bit of discussion in this thread about the H25a V6 in the GV which is essentially the same as the H20a. viewtopic.php?f=5&t=40667&hilit=v6+oil

I might use 10W30 as that is a good compromise between 20 and 5 Although, i am yet to hear the notorious timing chain rattle.

[karlmarkiewicz]

MacDaddy wrote:

I also, would never put a Ryco on any Zook i own !

Out of curiosity, are the genuine suzuki brand filters the only good one? Because Repco (my local outlet) doesn't sell them

[atari4x4]

i'll have to double check what bank is what.... i'm guessing LHS is number 1 as it has cylinder #1 in it.

[karlmarkiewicz]

atari4x4 wrote:

i'll have to double check what bank is what.... i'm guessing LHS is number 1 as it has cylinder #1 in it.

Ahh yeah. okay thanks. BTW i went to bursons today and they sell the universal 2 sensors for $72 and the genuine suzuki sensors for $86, I opt out and bought the genuine ones ($86), but they wont get here untill Monday, ill let you guys know sometimes next week if it made a difference

[MacDaddy]

karlmarkiewicz wrote:

MacDaddy wrote:

I also, would never put a Ryco on any Zook i own !

Out of curiosity, are the genuine suzuki brand filters the only good one? Because Repco (my local outlet) doesn't sell them

In My opinion, Yes !
No they wont sell them, you will have to go to a Suzuki parts Centre, they have come down in price a fair whack, and are only $16 now... here is some part numbers if you need them, just scroll down a bit -
http://www.suzistore.com.au/onlinestore ... 91745.html

[TheOtherLeft]

MacDaddy wrote:

karlmarkiewicz wrote:

MacDaddy wrote:

I also, would never put a Ryco on any Zook i own !

Out of curiosity, are the genuine suzuki brand filters the only good one? Because Repco (my local outlet) doesn't sell them

In My opinion, Yes !
No they wont sell them, you will have to go to a Suzuki parts Centre, they have come down in price a fair whack, and are only $16 now... here is some part numbers if you need them, just scroll down a bit -
http://www.suzistore.com.au/onlinestore ... 91745.html

Even though this is getting off topic (02 sensor) but I've gone from Ryco to AC Delco oil filters. Bought them from a store in Brisbane and work out cheaper then Ryco. Even with Ryco I still only get timing chain rattle when it's near time to do an oil change (so after several thousand km's), it's only for a second and only after not driven the car for a few days.

[larry]

i just got 5 blinks - pause - 2 blinks but im a bit confused as i cant see a 52 in those tables :S what am i missing here

[karlmarkiewicz]

MacDaddy wrote:

karlmarkiewicz wrote:

MacDaddy wrote:

I also, would never put a Ryco on any Zook i own !

Out of curiosity, are the genuine suzuki brand filters the only good one? Because Repco (my local outlet) doesn't sell them

In My opinion, Yes !
No they wont sell them, you will have to go to a Suzuki parts Centre, they have come down in price a fair whack, and are only $16 now... here is some part numbers if you need them, just scroll down a bit -
http://www.suzistore.com.au/onlinestore ... 91745.html

Awesome thanks for that ill check it out.

TheOtherLeft wrote:

Even though this is getting off topic (02 sensor) but I've gone from Ryco to AC Delco oil filters. Bought them from a store in Brisbane and work out cheaper then Ryco. Even with Ryco I still only get timing chain rattle when it's near time to do an oil change (so after several thousand km's), it's only for a second and only after not driven the car for a few days.

I don't think i have ever experienced a chain rattle, and I've used a Ryco since i've owned the car, which was only 5000 kms ago. I will probably change my Oil and the filter in another 5000 or so.

[karlmarkiewicz]

larry wrote:

i just got 5 blinks - pause - 2 blinks but im a bit confused as i cant see a 52 in those tables :S what am i missing here

Yeah, I'm not too sure to be honest. You mind need atari4x4 for that one, i think he has a service manual.

[atari4x4]

karlmarkiewicz wrote:

larry wrote:

i just got 5 blinks - pause - 2 blinks but im a bit confused as i cant see a 52 in those tables :S what am i missing here

Yeah, I'm not too sure to be honest. You mind need atari4x4 for that one, i think he has a service manual.

sure it wasn't 25 & you missed the first one post a vid if you can