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luke3411

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Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:25 pm Posts: 183 Location: Katherine
Vehicle: Hard Top Fusty Ducker Vitara
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 Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:26 pm |
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So after getting to the Daly river (yep the one with the massive swamp gecko's) at 2am in the morning, Me and my mate had to get to the other side where everyone else was meeting up with us. We had a look at the crossing but no way in Fk I was going to walk it. My mate drove across it a few times in his cruiser and we guaged the depth and what I was up against. So we finally took the plunge and even though the Vitara made it through without a hick up, I got to the other side and quickly flicked up my bonnet to check if everything was in it's place. The air filter was saturated!!!!! I quickly flicked off the engine and then took the air filter apart and even though the filter was soaked there was no water in the bottom pan of the air filter assembly. I have a weber with the air filter that came with it so you have a rough idea what it looks like. So after cleaning out my underpants I let the filter dry out, camped 2 nights and caught a few Barra then I got hold of a rope and got my mate to skull drag me back across with my air filter covered up where I proceeded to pull a troopy out of the sand So these particular events have gotten my brain ticking over again as to getting a Snorkel. So from Carby to Snorkel.. I would have to get a hat of some sort so that I could run that off the top of the Carby. Looked around and they all look pretty expensive. Anyone know of any cheap ones? I want to get a filter set up that's either inline oooorrrrrr I would like more to get a filter box from another vehicle and set that up. Was thinking something bigger than a suzuki one to allow for a little more air flow. Hoping I can pick up the box from the wreckers. Was just gonna buy a Snorkel off ebay for $200. Seems reasonable and has a cool little thing on the side saying Vitara. Basically I would like to have this whole thing done and dusted for about $400 but less is always better. How have other people set theres up and what cost's did they incur? Cheers Zookers!!
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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i went through the same thing with my sierra and the weber i had on the 1.6 motor....
I took the expensive option and converted it to EFI, then ran a stock airbox and a regular snorkel =) lol
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luke3411

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Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:25 pm Posts: 183 Location: Katherine
Vehicle: Hard Top Fusty Ducker Vitara
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 Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:07 pm |
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alien wrote: i went through the same thing with my sierra and the weber i had on the 1.6 motor....
I took the expensive option and converted it to EFI, then ran a stock airbox and a regular snorkel =) lol Nah I like my little carby engine. Easy to fix. I've been brain storming some more and was thinking if the weber carby's are the same unit but with different jetting, Would I be able to get a sierra air filter box and mount that in my vitara? Would it still allow enough air flow? and the such for this application? I know that people say that Webbers are no good with snorkels but plenty of people have done it.
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Marko_SJ
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:40 am Posts: 2979 Location: Darwin, NT
Vehicle: WT sierra, GU CRD
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 Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:21 pm |
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luke3411 wrote: alien wrote: i went through the same thing with my sierra and the weber i had on the 1.6 motor....
I took the expensive option and converted it to EFI, then ran a stock airbox and a regular snorkel =) lol Nah I like my little carby engine. Easy to fix. I've been brain storming some more and was thinking if the weber carby's are the same unit but with different jetting, Would I be able to get a sierra air filter box and mount that in my vitara? Would it still allow enough air flow? and the such for this application? I know that people say that Webbers are no good with snorkels but plenty of people have done it. After reading some of the airbox tech on here it would seem sierra air boxes aren't the best. Having said that, after reading some of the tech on here no part of a sierra is too good Could you run a standard vit air box to a standard carby hat modded to fit like this: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=41968&hilit=webber+install+how+to
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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http://www.redlineweber.com/html/applic ... norkle.htmThis is the proper solution to the weber snorkel... however its VERY tall - no way it fits under a sierra bonnet with a weber on top of a 1.6 with no bodylift... i don't think vitaras have all that much room to spare once a weber is bolted on either?
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luke3411

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Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:25 pm Posts: 183 Location: Katherine
Vehicle: Hard Top Fusty Ducker Vitara
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 Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 11:05 am |
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The_Amateur wrote: luke3411 wrote: alien wrote: i went through the same thing with my sierra and the weber i had on the 1.6 motor....
I took the expensive option and converted it to EFI, then ran a stock airbox and a regular snorkel =) lol Nah I like my little carby engine. Easy to fix. I've been brain storming some more and was thinking if the weber carby's are the same unit but with different jetting, Would I be able to get a sierra air filter box and mount that in my vitara? Would it still allow enough air flow? and the such for this application? I know that people say that Webbers are no good with snorkels but plenty of people have done it. After reading some of the airbox tech on here it would seem sierra air boxes aren't the best. Having said that, after reading some of the tech on here no part of a sierra is too good Could you run a standard vit air box to a standard carby hat modded to fit like this: viewtopic.php?f=5&t=41968&hilit=webber+install+how+to My Original hat died so havent got that any more to modify. The air filter on the Carby I have sits fairly high already. I'll have a look at measurements to see if it will fit. or would a stock sierra carby hat that is moded do the trick? Hmmmm
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damø
Joined: Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:37 pm Posts: 50 Location: Darwin
Vehicle: 1995 Sierra
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do you have that sports air filter thing as well? i made a shroud around mine to stop water splashing onto it before i binned it
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Santos
Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1009 Location: Sydney -ish
Vehicle: 92 Suzuki Sierra
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 Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:36 pm |
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i have a spare sierra carb hat right angle adapter thingy f you want to mod it its gottom to go over the weber thrat which i'm guessing is square and not round like aisin/mkuni carbs?
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 5:29 pm |
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tupperware airbox FTW
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Sco-tie
Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:02 pm Posts: 928 Location: Adelaide hills!
Vehicle: 04 Grand Vitara, 2.5L, V6
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atari4x4 wrote: tupperware airbox FTW Sistema is the new tupperware! 
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luke3411

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Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:25 pm Posts: 183 Location: Katherine
Vehicle: Hard Top Fusty Ducker Vitara
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 Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 3:51 am |
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damø wrote: do you have that sports air filter thing as well? i made a shroud around mine to stop water splashing onto it before i binned it Yeah i got that sports air filter thing. I'm not a fan of it. Its just crumbled and is letting in stuff that scary looking. I found a few grains of sand sitting in the pan around the carb a few months ago. Engine has been fine though.
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luke3411

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Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:25 pm Posts: 183 Location: Katherine
Vehicle: Hard Top Fusty Ducker Vitara
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 Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 3:55 am |
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Santos PM sent
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tassie jeeper
Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:39 pm Posts: 246
Vehicle: 1995 2.0V6 Vitara LWB
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i think u need to drive more steady in the water i on;y have a pod filter in mine and have drove through water up to my headlights without getting anything wet
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luke3411

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Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:25 pm Posts: 183 Location: Katherine
Vehicle: Hard Top Fusty Ducker Vitara
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 Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:40 pm |
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Yeah was going very steady. Was just above idol in first low. Was talking to a mate today and he said it might be my radiator fan spraying a bit of water around and soaking the air filter. I told him to shut up and stop killing my new excuse for getting a snorkel lol
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Chop

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Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 6456 Location: Radelaide ofcourse!
Vehicle: Suzuki GV 03/ 2010 DDIS NGV
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 Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 10:56 pm |
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Sco-tie wrote: atari4x4 wrote: tupperware airbox FTW Sistema is the new tupperware!  Tupperware lifetime warranty FTW!!! 
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tassie jeeper
Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:39 pm Posts: 246
Vehicle: 1995 2.0V6 Vitara LWB
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 Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:32 pm |
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luke3411 wrote: Yeah was going very steady. Was just above idol in first low. my radiator fan spraying a bit of water around and soaking the air filter. id say thats probably your problem
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 11:40 pm |
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Chop wrote: Sco-tie wrote: atari4x4 wrote: tupperware airbox FTW Sistema is the new tupperware!  Tupperware lifetime warranty FTW!!!  i was kind of serious... something like this with the lid cut to suit the hole for the air filter & sandwiched between the carby & filter base plate, fit the filter & fit the base over the top, with either holes drilled on the firewall side for it to breath or somehow attach a snorkel to it. 
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Santos
Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1009 Location: Sydney -ish
Vehicle: 92 Suzuki Sierra
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 Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:03 am |
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atari you don't think it will warp with the heat off the engine and oven like conditions under the bonnet?
have had tupperwear sag when left near a hotplate
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:26 am |
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 probably, but i want someone to test my theory
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luke3411

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Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:25 pm Posts: 183 Location: Katherine
Vehicle: Hard Top Fusty Ducker Vitara
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 Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 8:57 am |
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atari4x4 wrote: :lol: probably, but i want someone to test my theory I might give it a go for shits and giggles. I might hunt around for something a little thicker to try and prevent sag from heat.
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Marko_SJ
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:40 am Posts: 2979 Location: Darwin, NT
Vehicle: WT sierra, GU CRD
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 Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:18 pm |
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Santos wrote: atari you don't think it will warp with the heat off the engine and oven like conditions under the bonnet?
have had tupperwear sag when left near a hotplate Microwave safe FTW? 
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tassie jeeper
Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:39 pm Posts: 246
Vehicle: 1995 2.0V6 Vitara LWB
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 Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 12:54 pm |
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luke3411 wrote: I might give it a go for shits and giggles. I might hunt around for something a little thicker to try and prevent sag from heat. why not weld something up out of sheet steel will still be light if u make it thin enough, u will need to make it big enough so it can draw air from the space above the car when u smash the loud peddle
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Santos
Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1009 Location: Sydney -ish
Vehicle: 92 Suzuki Sierra
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 Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 2:26 pm |
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The_Amateur wrote: Santos wrote: atari you don't think it will warp with the heat off the engine and oven like conditions under the bonnet?
have had tupperwear sag when left near a hotplate Microwave safe FTW?  Put it in an oven at 90 degrees celcius for an hour, then come back and tell us about your experience 
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Marko_SJ
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:40 am Posts: 2979 Location: Darwin, NT
Vehicle: WT sierra, GU CRD
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 Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:20 pm |
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Santos wrote: The_Amateur wrote: Santos wrote: atari you don't think it will warp with the heat off the engine and oven like conditions under the bonnet?
have had tupperwear sag when left near a hotplate Microwave safe FTW?  Put it in an oven at 90 degrees celcius for an hour, then come back and tell us about your experience  haha my food would now be sealed in plastic  . My actual suggestion remains to find a stock one and mod to suit. Although I am using a tupperware container as an airbox for my breathers and it is fine, I agree, use something else.
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luke3411

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Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:25 pm Posts: 183 Location: Katherine
Vehicle: Hard Top Fusty Ducker Vitara
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 Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:48 am |
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Ha ha. After. Few drinks last night me and a mate put the Tupperware theory to the test. It's working a treat. I'll try and post a few pics
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:53 am |
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luke3411 wrote: Ha ha. After. Few drinks last night me and a mate put the Tupperware theory to the test. It's working a treat. I'll try and post a few pics atari4x4 tupperware airbox®
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Ausuki
Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:22 pm Posts: 99
Vehicle: 93 Vitara -itty bitty lift
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 Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 4:49 pm |
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call it the iBox 
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damø
Joined: Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:37 pm Posts: 50 Location: Darwin
Vehicle: 1995 Sierra
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 Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:10 am |
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on the upside you could keep ham and cheese toasties warm while your driving around
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:12 am |
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pics not loading 
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