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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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No, I can't argue if you fold or scrunch either, but what you can "feel" and what is real are completely different things. Cars that make more noise feel faster. Cars that ride more stiffly feel faster. Cars that are lower feel faster. Otherwise standard cars with 100 octane in them aren't faster, but some marketing guff on the pump you misinterpreted convinced you that it was going to be, so it is.
Read that marketing guff a bit harder, I think you'll notice that it won't claim your car will perform better with 100octane ethanol fuel in it, only that the fuel has higher performance, which it does. Whether you car can use that higher performance (which it can't. Really, it can't, regardless of what old mate has told you) isn't the fault of the fuel manufacturer.
Manufacturers use ethanol because it's cheap. They can maximize their profit if they bump the octane to 100 and sell it as a performance fuel.
As an aside, I work at an oil refinery.
Just because it doesn't make sense to you doesn't mean it doesn't make sense.
Steve.
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dhglory
Joined: Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:15 am Posts: 52
Vehicle: 95 vitara V6 manual.
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I am only giving my opinion on what my experience was with changing to higher octane fuel as I had the same thing happening as Karl. And like you said before, I don't know you, or any of the others that apparently have an interest in my previous posts/comments for some reason so therefor nothing you've explained before will change what I'm experiencing using these fuels. there is definitely a huge increase in performance using 98 over 91. as well as the 100 over the 98 although not massive. could be different factors involved like outside temp etc. there must be a very good reason this particular petrol station has regulars coming in from all over the place to get his fuel for their rally cars, drag and hotrods, but it seems like I won't be winning an argument with a well educated person who might have studied science. not everything you read and learn from books add up. i'm not very well educated but I sure know how to create a very fine shiraz without the use of books, it's the feeling and the experience that makes you succesfull, not a stack of books @ the university library. as for the very helpful and friendly attitude of this forum goes, it doesn't rate that high in my opinion. it seems like I get attacked on everything I say, ATARI !!  clearly you are mistaking me with someone you had a run in somewhere in the outback named jack??. I have given my 2c on this topic and leave it at that. i'll keep on browsing on here for what I need for my vitara and try not to ask too many questions. ciau for now. 
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:52 am |
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dhglory wrote: there is definitely a huge increase in performance using 98 over 91. dhglory wrote: I never had 91 in it so wouldn't know what that is like. 95 as a minimum if I can't get anything else See why you're having trouble here? Don't insult our intelligence and we won't insult yours. You're entitled to your opinion and your experience. Unfortunately the facts don't support your experience. Best not to confuse the two. Wine making is absolutely about experimentation, feel and experience. Burning fuel in an engine isn't. You can't "blind taste" what fuel is in your car. Steve.
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atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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dhglory wrote: it seems like I get attacked on everything I say, ATARI !! get your facts straight jack & you'll be just fine, tell porky pies & you'll be made to look like a tool as per this thread. 
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karlmarkiewicz
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:12 pm Posts: 290 Location: Brisbane, QLD
Vehicle: 95 Suzuki Vitara V6 2.0L Auto
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Didn't check this thread for one day and it is now suddenly raped with posts hahahah  Fun read though 
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dhglory
Joined: Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:15 am Posts: 52
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 Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:44 pm |
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it is a joke isn't it Karl, do keep us updated though 
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atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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Your the one who can't tell the same story twice, it's good entertainment. 
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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I was going to suggest that we obviously have a different idea about the source of the lols in this thread.
I'd like a magic servo though.
Steve.
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karlmarkiewicz
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:12 pm Posts: 290 Location: Brisbane, QLD
Vehicle: 95 Suzuki Vitara V6 2.0L Auto
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atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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dhglory wrote: there must be a very good reason this particular petrol station has regulars coming in from all over the place to get his fuel for their rally cars, drag and hotrods. care to publish the location of your magic service station, i'd like to fill up & run some of this voodoo race juice.
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karlmarkiewicz
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:12 pm Posts: 290 Location: Brisbane, QLD
Vehicle: 95 Suzuki Vitara V6 2.0L Auto
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mmm voodoo juice 
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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Alright, I admit it, the game is up. Mobil in Melbourne refine around 70,000 barrels of oil per day. However, on every second tuesday, they stop the whole refinery and put through the "dhglory batch". They only make two barrels, and they are express shipped to the magical service station. It has an octane of 135, but contains special, top secret additives that also radically advance your engines timing, and trick airflow meters into reading extra air. dhglory, You swore you wouldn't tell anyone! Steve.
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stockman

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Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 5319 Location: Canberra
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 Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:10 pm |
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He might be confusing the 100ron with E85?
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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 Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:26 pm |
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that's a possibility considering he got all confused when steve started talking about advancing the timing to maximize the slower burn of the higher octane fuel.
probably harvested from magic potato's
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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Now I'm confused - geez, I hope he's not putting E85 in it?
Steve.
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Marko_SJ
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:40 am Posts: 2979 Location: Darwin, NT
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atari4x4 wrote: that's a possibility considering he got all confused when steve started talking about advancing the timing to maximize the slower burn of the higher octane fuel.
probably harvested from magic potato's Maybe he's distilled stuff from magic potatoes, and not taken enough of the head and tail off, then consumed it? Mmmmm, methanol... M85.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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 Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:34 pm |
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 M85 the dhglory blend
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dhglory
Joined: Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:15 am Posts: 52
Vehicle: 95 vitara V6 manual.
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 Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:13 am |
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 eeeks !, this post got raped and banged again!,  !!, maybe I need to read the AZ game rules, I might be playing it wrong 
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dhglory
Joined: Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:15 am Posts: 52
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Gwagensteve wrote: Alright, I admit it, the game is up. Mobil in Melbourne refine around 70,000 barrels of oil per day. However, on every second tuesday, they stop the whole refinery and put through the "dhglory batch". They only make two barrels, and they are express shipped to the magical service station. It has an octane of 135, but contains special, top secret additives that also radically advance your engines timing, and trick airflow meters into reading extra air. dhglory, You swore you wouldn't tell anyone! Steve.  sorry I broke my promise but I felt like the public needed to know, selfish to keep it all to myself 
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dhglory
Joined: Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:15 am Posts: 52
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 Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:41 am |
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atari4x4 wrote: dhglory wrote: there must be a very good reason this particular petrol station has regulars coming in from all over the place to get his fuel for their rally cars, drag and hotrods. care to publish the location of your magic service station, i'd like to fill up & run some of this voodoo race juice. None in VIC. but I care enough to bring you the good news, liberty old Noarlunga has the magic mushroom blend. shouldn't be too far away from where you are. got some again 2 weeks ago when I was at prospect XCO round 3. now go fill up your slushbox pov pack with that boost juice and report.  you're probably going to be cocky about it anyway. 
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atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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dhglory wrote: atari4x4 wrote: dhglory wrote: there must be a very good reason this particular petrol station has regulars coming in from all over the place to get his fuel for their rally cars, drag and hotrods. care to publish the location of your magic service station, i'd like to fill up & run some of this voodoo race juice. None in VIC. but I care enough to bring you the good news, liberty old Noarlunga has the magic mushroom blend. shouldn't be too far away from where you are. got some again 2 weeks ago when I was at prospect XCO round 3. now go fill up your slushbox pov pack with that boost juice and report.  you're probably going to be cocky about it anyway.  hahaha, that little rant has so much info in it & i now know you are that powertard off facebook who was using the alias DH Hart, the same person that sent emails to peoples places of employment because you carried on like a child & got removed from a few FB groups and now you're back here once again. what's even funnier is those emails were sent from an email account registered to a one Jaques De Kievit? old mate outbackjack, you still getting on the cans & getting angry at the keyboard old man? how many FB alias have you got now?
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dhglory
Joined: Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:15 am Posts: 52
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Atari, I don't know you and you don't know me, so  and give me one good reason why you think I am your outback mate. I still have no idea over who you're getting all worked up about. What do I do to make that idiot accusation disappear?
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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stopping acting like a know it all douchbag would be a good start.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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dhglory wrote: atari4x4 wrote: dhglory wrote: there must be a very good reason this particular petrol station has regulars coming in from all over the place to get his fuel for their rally cars, drag and hotrods. care to publish the location of your magic service station, i'd like to fill up & run some of this voodoo race juice. None in VIC. but I care enough to bring you the good news, liberty old Noarlunga has the magic mushroom blend. shouldn't be too far away from where you are. got some again 2 weeks ago when I was at prospect XCO round 3. now go fill up your slushbox pov pack with that boost juice and report.  you're probably going to be cocky about it anyway.  so i'll ask again Jacques, what servo do all the racecars fill up at?
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karlmarkiewicz
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:12 pm Posts: 290 Location: Brisbane, QLD
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dhglory
Joined: Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:15 am Posts: 52
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 Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:47 am |
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tanshi wrote: stopping acting like a know it all douchbag would be a good start. If that's all it takes shanty then there wouldn't be a problem here mate Is there anything I said that indicates I know it all ? Having an opinion makes you a know it all douchbag? 
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dhglory
Joined: Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:15 am Posts: 52
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 Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:50 am |
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karlmarkiewicz wrote: Yep Karl, might pop some corn as well while I'm on lunch  there's more people coming to this party. 
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dhglory
Joined: Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:15 am Posts: 52
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Atari, Are you asking that mate of yours now? Because you're confusing me with your imaginary friend.
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atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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 Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:55 am |
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so what servo was it? 
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dhglory
Joined: Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:15 am Posts: 52
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