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theroadrunner
Joined: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 96 Location: vic
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I hope someone can help i have a whining noise coming from the gearbox i have had for differnet mechanics tell me different things
The whinning is there when the car is idleing and driving but as soon as you put you foot on the clutch it goes away, i have been told it is the bearing in the gearbox and i should just get a secondhand gearbox, i also have been told it is the thrust bearing is there a much of a differnce between the two and how can i besure which one it is
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gypsy

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Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1027 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: lj81 stockman
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its the thrust bearing i would put money on it,change it first its the cheapest
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Joe

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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
Vehicle: JB74
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gypsy wrote: its the thrust bearing i would put money on it,change it first its the cheapest
x2 and if its not that all vitara gearboxs make a whining noise dont worry bout it
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theroadrunner
Joined: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 96 Location: vic
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If it is the thrust bearing is it worth putting in a new clutch and is it a big job i have been qouted 600 - 700 to do a thrust bearing, i was told about three hours labour
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Joe

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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
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I got quoted $700 for a whole clutch kit fitted three hours labour is about right
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Joe

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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
Vehicle: JB74
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 Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:10 pm |
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How bad is the noise? my last vitaras thrust bearing was making noises when i got it and after 30 000 kms it didnt get any louder not too sure if it can cause any damage but
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theroadrunner
Joined: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 96 Location: vic
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it comes and goes can be there for a while changing up and down through the gears and when in top gear and idleing it goes away when you put youer foot on the clutch pedal but sometimes it will go away the less i change gears and if i'm on the road for a while it wont be there
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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input bearing, pretty common.
Unless you cant hear the stereo over it dont worry, any other box you get will be jsut as bad
assuming your box has oil in it
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Joe

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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
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I wouldnt worry too much about it and just wait till ya need a new clutch for $600-$700 bucks you could get a good set of muddies or spend it on other shit for ya car or just buy heaps of beer 
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theroadrunner
Joined: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 96 Location: vic
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 Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:52 pm |
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at least i know or it sounds like it i will still be able to change gears for a while then thanks for the help
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theroadrunner
Joined: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 96 Location: vic
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 Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:54 pm |
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looks like i will invest in a work shop manual
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zuk94
Joined: Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 193 Location: brisbane
Vehicle: 94 Vitara LWB
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joseph wrote: gypsy wrote: its the thrust bearing i would put money on it,change it first its the cheapest x2 and if its not that all vitara gearboxs make a whining noise dont worry bout it
My gearbaox was a lttle noisy when i got it . Put some Nulon stuff in it and it improved alot. The results weren't instant so don't expect that.
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theroadrunner
Joined: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 96 Location: vic
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 Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:21 pm |
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happy to try anything, is it a normal for a vit box to do this also anything under 1500rpm in first or reverse the car shutters is it normal rev a vit a little harder to change gears because to seems to take off in first and reverse around 1800-2000 rpm
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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theroadrunner
Joined: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 96 Location: vic
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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joseph wrote: I got quoted $700 for a whole clutch kit fitted three hours labour is about right
Yep. that's good.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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royce wrote: input bearing, pretty common.
Unless you cant hear the stereo over it dont worry, any other box you get will be jsut as bad
assuming your box has oil in it
X2
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Saam

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Joined: Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 2068 Location: Sunshine Coast
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steknig wrote: joseph wrote: I got quoted $700 for a whole clutch kit fitted three hours labour is about right Yep. that's good.
bit steep i rekon, part would only be like 220... so 480 labour, i dunno if i have seen anyone charge 160 an hour labour, 100 would be normal labour but still heaps, so charging you about 400 for a clutch kit...
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Saam wrote: steknig wrote: joseph wrote: I got quoted $700 for a whole clutch kit fitted three hours labour is about right Yep. that's good. bit steep i rekon, part would only be like 220... so 480 labour, i dunno if i have seen anyone charge 160 an hour labour, 100 would be normal labour but still heaps, so charging you about 400 for a clutch kit...
& transfer oil. Flywheel machine. Spigot isn't in the kit, enviro charge's, ink for the printer, coffee, condom's.
It all add's up 
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:44 pm |
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250 retail for clutch
60 flywheel machine
20 for oil
25 for rear main
5 for spigot
I can do mine in 3 hours now so thats about right
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2stroker
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2689 Location: North Brisbane
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How many times you done the clutch now Royce, I remember your posts about paying to have it done when they stuffed it up.
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theroadrunner
Joined: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 96 Location: vic
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 Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:25 pm |
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I when and got a price for a clutch kit a standard one arond $150 or around $270 for a heavy duty kit, i have been told there not that hard to fit is that true
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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2stroker wrote: How many times you done the clutch now Royce, I remember your posts about paying to have it done when they stuffed it up.
Only things I have ever paid to have done on my car is a wheel alignment and they still stuff it up and I have to fix it  rest I have done
3 times in total, once to fit the HD clutch, once to remove it and have it all checked by somebody else at a workshop with Daikin, I still removed and refit it, and once to fit a standard Daikin clutch, which has been excellent.
As a side, I am starting to get a theory on late vits and clutches thanks to Sam, jsut got to make some time to have a good look at it all
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