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brendan
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1484 Location: Sydney
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well the 1.6 has lost power with anything more then a tap of the throttle, runs rough. idels fine. is fine in high rpm but not hihg throttle if that make sence?
going to replace the spark plugs and injectors. so where would i get injectors and how much are they going to cost me
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89_tintop

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Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3159 Location: gold coast
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why not yours cleaned mate???
we have a guy on the gold coast the runs around in a van and cleas them for $30 each.. they come up better then new.
i wouldnt bother with 2nd hand, as you dont know what your getting. and new will prob cost some $$$$
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brendan
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1484 Location: Sydney
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just i may need the car for work so i dont want to send them off to get cleaned. but ill look into it if it dont take too long to do
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89_tintop

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Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3159 Location: gold coast
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takes about 30 to 40 minutes to get done ../plus the time to pull them out. other wise buy second hand and get them cleamed.
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Westie

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Joined: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 1417 Location: Caloundra Sunshine
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sorta going off topic here. But is it an advantage to get bigger injectors if you had to replace them or would there need to be other work done to get any benifit from it.
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jimbo_jones

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Joined: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4361 Location: gong
Vehicle: 2015 Jimny, LJ50, Maruti
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I priced vn V8 injectors yesterday from repco they were $75 each trade can't see the vitara ones being much more
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hutch

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Joined: Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1213 Location: SW Bris
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Do you have an electric fuel pump?
Took my zook to suziauto at springwood and they put a guage on it to test the pump. It was shagged... It actually had a negative pumping effect, was sucking fuel out of the carb back to the tank!
It ran like shit when I put my foot down, but when I backed off it improved. I got rid of the inline elec pump and went back to a mecahincal one.
Just another thought.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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do you r plugs and leads first
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89_tintop

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Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3159 Location: gold coast
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Westie wrote: sorta going off topic here. But is it an advantage to get bigger injectors if you had to replace them or would there need to be other work done to get any benifit from it.
its not that easy.. you have to change other things as well.
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ninjadaniel
Joined: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 365 Location: Brisbane
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i have a set of G16 injectors if you are desperate
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Westie

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Joined: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 1417 Location: Caloundra Sunshine
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89_tintop wrote: Westie wrote: sorta going off topic here. But is it an advantage to get bigger injectors if you had to replace them or would there need to be other work done to get any benifit from it. its not that easy.. you have to change other things as well.
Like what would you need to change and would it be worth the extra $ and what would be the gain in HP
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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Westie wrote: 89_tintop wrote: Westie wrote: sorta going off topic here. But is it an advantage to get bigger injectors if you had to replace them or would there need to be other work done to get any benifit from it. its not that easy.. you have to change other things as well. Like what would you need to change and would it be worth the extra $ and what would be the gain in HP
Injectors only inject fuel, and they do so by opening and shutting (pulsing) them very fast. As the engine pulls in more air the ECU adds more fuel by opening the injector for longer (longer pulse width). Manufacturers will spec their injectors with some headroom so small mods (intake and exhaust mods) should not be a problem with standard injectors.
Adding a LOT more air (eg, turbo or supercharger) means you need a lot more fuel. This is generally the only time you will need larger injectors. In this case you would also need to reprogram or change the ECU so that it's injecting the right amoust of fuel.
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Westie

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Joined: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 1417 Location: Caloundra Sunshine
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Thanks Damo Just that the vit is on 444.000k but no turbo's will be going on maybe just a clean of the injectors one day.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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Its worth getting your injectors properly tested and cleaned every few years, and like a carby kits its no use jsut throwing stuff at it
you need to find a mob that will take them and test them for leakage, flow and spray pattern, then ultrasonic clean them and replace any bits if need be then retest them to make sure they flow even and spray well, money well spent
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
Vehicle: Awesome!!
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Westie wrote: 89_tintop wrote: Westie wrote: sorta going off topic here. But is it an advantage to get bigger injectors if you had to replace them or would there need to be other work done to get any benifit from it. its not that easy.. you have to change other things as well. Like what would you need to change and would it be worth the extra $ and what would be the gain in HP
The ECU uses the injector flow rate among other variables ie RPM, load etc to calculate the amount of fuel required for it to run as close the 14.7:1 A/F as possible. This amount of fuel is achieved by the injector pulse width in combination with the known injector flow rate. Just changing the injectors for 'bigger ones' without ecu calibration will keep the same pulse widths but over fuel now because the flow rate has been increased.
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brendan
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1484 Location: Sydney
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yes i will be replacing the plugs and leads first. then ill get injectors cleaned ect
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