[BUZOOKA]

its not so much the fact that i probly wont be able to do the motor or pay for it


its that i get shit all time off of work and on the days i have off my phone usualy rings asking me to come in so its a time fctor as well there so after thinking thats wat made my choice easier

[IN2DEP]

Fatzook wrote:

IN2DEP wrote:

BUZOOKA wrote:

as i mentioned i think i might just rebuild my old 1.3 and call it a good thing 1 liter transfer it and slap some lift and tyres on


so discussion here closed

Do the 1.6 vit motor with the twin cam (GTI head) thats what im going to do when i get some cash

Not a great motor setup for an offroad driven sierra. They are way to peaky despite the 1.6 block, and require aftermarket engine management to get any kind of reliable result. Oh, and the 1.3GTI head actually flows less than the 1.6 SOHC head.

Buzooka, I think you are on the right track there mate. Just keep it simple and you will enjoy it far more.

Peter

I do know that the vit head flows better then the gti one, but there has to be some kinda advantage being a twin cam, no ??

Whats the most power anyones got out of the 1.3 sierra motor ?? Cause thats what its all about in the end, and if you can gain some good power out of the 1.3 well yeah yous are right

But efi is still better

[2stroker]

atari4x4 wrote:

2stroker wrote:

Fatzook is 100% correct.

Hi atari4x4

I believe that Suzuki rates a J20A at 94KW, but even if it was 97KW after 13 years of use I am sure it has lost quite a few the KW's it was first released with, certainly not close to 100KW as you optimistically stated.

I don't think he can legally go 2 litres and I don't think anyone has fitted the latest 2009/2010 122KW 2.4 litre GV engine to a Sierra yet.

Yeah I am a realist no apologies.

2storker, serious question time...

how many KW would a well looked after 13 year old motor would lose, i have replaced the cat & muffler with a hi flow cat & muffler?

i know redbook isn't always 100% correct but thats what i used to get the 97kw...

http://www.redbook.com.au/used-cars/det ... 6062C694A3

Yeah point taken, I just read over the posts again, you did actually say "nearly 100KW" I had a list that rated them at 94KW so I thought there may have been a 100KW import or something that I didn't know about, which sparked my interest.

As for how many KW it would loose, not too sure but I know that I used to have my 1200 Suzuki Bandit dyno tuned and after 3 years and just over 20,000 km it had droped a couple of horse power from when I got it new.
It was serviced every 5000km and looked after.

[atari4x4]

thats interesting, mines just cracked 132,000kms & serviced every 5000km one day i would like to get it on a dyno but with big tyres & diff gears i really wonder what it would put out.

the new SX4 comes out with an updated J20a with around 107kw, i wonder what they've done to get another 10kw!

[BUZOOKA]

wow my simple question turned in to 9 pages

[Fatzook]

BUZOOKA wrote:

wow my simple question turned in to 9 pages

Shit happens

[BUZOOKA]

got a quote for a company down here to rebuild the motor for me and it was close to the same price for a 1.6 vitata motor so looks i might be rebuilding it my self (with help from family) as it will work out alot cheaper instead of paying for some other guy to play with it

[jonno_racing]

just buy a cheep second hand one ffs

[BUZOOKA]

im not pay 800 dollars then to find i have to rebuild that fucking one

[jonno_racing]

lol 800 for a sierra motor? i gave away a good one to mike! he would give it to you lol

[BUZOOKA]

this the same mike from tassie 4wds by any chance ?? as he offered me some rims for $100 and i asked wat they were like and were abouts he is and havent got anything back and that was on the 2nd im guessing he doesnt have much computer time

[Fatzook]

I rebuilt a 1.3 for $400 in parts and $300 for a complete head rebuild. As long as your block and pistons are still servicable, there is no reason why you cannot rebuild yours for under $1k including new water pump, fuel pump, belts, seals etc.

Pete

[BUZOOKA]

i think i might need to hone out the cylinders as i was told more then likley they would be out of round i think that came from royce

[joeblow]

zookster666 wrote:

16 valve is mpfi (multi point fuel injection) and 8 valve is carby sometimes its tbi (throttle body injection)
They are both the same displacement the difference is in the head and the injection & carby. The number of valves does not change the size of the engine.

the other 'big' difference is in the crank. the mpi motor is fully counterweighted. also, royce mentioned there are 16 valve carby motors from a swift. yes from an import point of view, but the majority of ausie spec ones were tbi systems. i'd never really waiste my time with a carby 1.6 unless i got absolutely dirt cheap.

[BUZOOKA]

yer wll im not looking at a 1.6 any more just gonna rebuild than lock and load