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The_GRIZZ
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 562 Location: Cairns
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 Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 11:16 pm |
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Has any one removed the bar the is attached to the suspension arm hangers it is also attached to the suspension arms. If any body has, does it give it more flex in the front? does it increase body roll?
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The_GRIZZ
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 562 Location: Cairns
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 Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 11:23 pm |
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forgot something.......
would it be a good idea or could it damage parts?
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 11:27 pm |
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that is the sway bar, yes it helps a bit cause the suspension isnt being held up so to speak
will give more bodyroll on road though
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The_GRIZZ
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 562 Location: Cairns
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 Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 11:30 pm |
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would the body roll be real bad or would it be able to be put up with?
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 11:32 pm |
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I dont think its anything bad if you arent driving like a twit but I guess its jsut something you have to try
jsut pull the pins out and leave the bar there and go for a drive
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The_GRIZZ
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 562 Location: Cairns
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 Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 11:40 pm |
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I'll give it a go.
Just had a thought, could i modify one, say cut it in half then put a sleeve on weld it to one side then put the other side in, drill a hole through the sleeve and other half of sway bar and put a large R-clip through the hole. So when on bitumen the sway bar in locked then when you get to a track you simply pull the R-clip out and now the wheels travel independently of each other.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 11:42 pm |
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go to
www.outerlimits.com and search the mitsubishi section for the articulator
a dude did the same thing, your theory is good but needs more beef
better to make a pin type disconnect for the end
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The_GRIZZ
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 562 Location: Cairns
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 Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 11:48 pm |
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your link doesn't have 4x4 after outerlimits
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The_GRIZZ
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 562 Location: Cairns
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 Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 12:01 am |
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i canna' see the friggn' picture  . But from what i read it sounds good. would it be hard to make one?
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Bruce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4003 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 1:03 am |
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I don't have the Sway bar on the GV and you really don't feel the diff but I'm old and don't go hooking around corners.
Vitzook removes his every timr he goes 4wding and just hooks the sway bar up someway.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 1:12 am |
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the bar is on mine just the end links removed, it jsut sits there and doesnt get in the way
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The_GRIZZ
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 562 Location: Cairns
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 Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 1:25 am |
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royce how does yours go with the 235's with the bar disconnected do they rub at the front under full flex or have you got lift?
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:25 am |
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yeah they rub on the back of the wheel arches a bit on full lock cause of the wheel offset, needs more hammer action 
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The_GRIZZ
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 562 Location: Cairns
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 Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 10:55 pm |
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wouldn't your sway bar rattle over bumps
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 11:41 pm |
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nah the bushes hold it in place, hanst moved a bit since I pulled the links of 5 months ago
I guess if your bushes are flogged it would flop around and that would be bad
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The_GRIZZ
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 562 Location: Cairns
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 Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 12:50 am |
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I'm going to check it out tomorrow, hope my bushes aren't flogged. If all else fails i'll just pull the whole thing off. 
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sp1086
Joined: Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 435 Location: Gold Coast
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 Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 1:16 am |
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That was the first thing I took off my zook when I put in my raised springs.. As Bruce said I cant really tell the difference on the road but I too am old.. 
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The_GRIZZ
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 562 Location: Cairns
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 Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 1:33 am |
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does it make a big difference sp1086
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sp1086
Joined: Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 435 Location: Gold Coast
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 Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 1:21 pm |
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It gives your vehicle better off road performance in the way that either side of the front suspension can move on its own this also gives you more flex in the front..  On the road you may notice more body roll when cornering, I didnt notice it partly because the springs I put in the front are very stiff due to having to hold up my 9500lb winch and bullbar.. 
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Mitchy
Joined: Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 73 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 12:55 am |
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So is it dangerous to do that? Sounds a bit dodgey, I tend to hoon round corners a bit, especially with these fantastic tyres!
Also SP1086, could you put an amount of difference on the off road part, like a lot better or barely noticeable??
Thanks!
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 1:25 am |
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mine still gets around corners alright, but I have race car negative camber in the front to compensate 
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The_GRIZZ
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 562 Location: Cairns
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 Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 10:09 pm |
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I have pulled the the things that hold the sway bar to the arms and the sway bar just sits there held by the bushes  then gave it a small flex test and it is already good, i put the right front wheel on the shed ramp and the left hand front wheel can now drop further.
better trails here i come 
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The_GRIZZ
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 562 Location: Cairns
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 Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 11:56 pm |
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I'll give a update on how they perform in the next few weeks.
hey Mitchy i don't exactly drive slowly around corners so i'll let you know tomorrow arvo.
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The_GRIZZ
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 562 Location: Cairns
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 Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 8:44 pm |
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still drive like it had the sway bar. but has real independent front suspension now 
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Mitchy
Joined: Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 73 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 10:50 pm |
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Geez sounds awesome, and simple!
Could someone post a pic or two please...
Thanks
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The_GRIZZ
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 562 Location: Cairns
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 Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 11:17 pm |
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forgot i tested the flex by driving through a very small drain probably about one foot deap and now it actually works, one wheel drops lower other wheel goes higher and does not tip as much going off road.
tomorrow arvo i'll take pics and post 'em.
thats if no one beats me to posting pics 
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Mitchy
Joined: Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 73 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 11:55 pm |
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Sounds good grizz, thanks.
I think I'm gonna seal the deal finally with a suspension lift.
Ironman kit which comes with 4 springs and 4 shocks/struts, about 35mm extra lift at the front and 40mm lift at the back. Then 10 and 20mm spacers for front and rear from Bruce.
So we'll see what happens, can't wait! 
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The_GRIZZ
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 562 Location: Cairns
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 Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 10:34 pm |
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Ok the pics are a bit late, but better late than never right?....
I've put flex pics on so you can see it works.
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The_GRIZZ
Joined: Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 562 Location: Cairns
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 Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 10:37 pm |
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S*&^ missing two pics
Here are the other two.
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Mitchy
Joined: Mon Apr 09, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 73 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 7:00 pm |
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Good stuff thanks for that  .
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