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Jccck
Joined: Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 706
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So half way through installing my 2.5" lift and WT diffs, i realised the front lines weren't even close to being long enough
Walked over to my wrecked Accord, ripped the front lines off.. They're 6" longer than the Zook's with the same connections on both ends
The lines are the same on 90 through 93 models.. Just a heads up they work a treat.. Shouldn't be hard to find at a wreckers
Also, no hating on my Honda brake lines 
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Jccck
Joined: Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 706
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 Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 1:34 pm |
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Sorry for another post, but i'd like to add that most older model Honda brake lines are compatable with Sierra ones (Not sure about Vits, sorry guys)
You do have to file a few mm out of one side of the brake line bracket, but that's easy
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zukmeista
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1273 Location: Whangarei,N.Z.
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Cheap and brakes in the same sentence= Dodgy farker.... 
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Rusho

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Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
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zukmeista wrote: Cheap and brakes in the same sentence= Dodgy farker.... 
What's dodgy about it??? The fittings are the same, filing a bit to get the fitting in the bracket would be ok also. It's just a cheap way to fix a common problem, utilizing a common part. Good work mate, some people will appriciate the heads up.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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zukmeista wrote: Cheap and brakes in the same sentence= Dodgy farker.... 
this is dodgy but i dont think that what jccck has done is dodgy.

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eldo

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Joined: Sat May 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2770 Location: sunny coast
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 Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 8:43 pm |
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shep wrote: zukmeista wrote: Cheap and brakes in the same sentence= Dodgy farker....  this is dodgy but i dont think that what jccck has done is dodgy. 
is that your rig shep?
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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i am not saying anything. 
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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I would NEVER recommend ANYONE buy used brake lines from a wrecker.
If you or your car aren't worth $50 for new lines then you have bigger problems.
However, JCCK has added a bit of tech to the forum by telling us that 90-93 Honda brake flexi hoses are longer than Sierra and will fit. They are probably cheaper to buy NEW than getting extended lines made up.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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want33s wrote: I would NEVER recommend ANYONE buy used brake lines from a wrecker. If you or your car aren't worth $50 for new lines then you have bigger problems.
However, JCCK has added a bit of tech to the forum by telling us that 90-93 Honda brake flexi hoses are longer than Sierra and will fit. They are probably cheaper to buy NEW than getting extended lines made up.
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New custom brakelines are dirt cheap and new factory brakelines are even cheaper. Even ADR approved braided aren't very dear.
Wreckers aren't supposed to sell brakelines off of wrecks- I've walked out of wreckers with brakelines cut in 1/2 because they wouldn't sell me a second hand line (I wanted the line to match the fittings)
Steve.
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bron5on
Joined: Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 285 Location: Hobart
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How is the pedal feel with that much extension matey? Nice find by the way! Also I'm not sure wreckers are permitted to sell second hand brake lines? Could be wrong.
Edit: Gwagensteve beat me to the wrecker comment!
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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Jccck, you fail once again.
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Joe

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BlueSuzy wrote: Jccck, you fail once again.
Not really a fail as long as you buy new ones and not s/h
And in W.A wreckers are not aloud to sell second hand break lines.....
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BlueSuzy

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joseph wrote: Not really a fail as long as you buy new ones and not s/h
That was my point. 2nd hand = fail. If he bought new, it wouldn't be fail. It would be Great Success!
But we can't do any 'Hating' anyway because master of bodge said so. = Fail again.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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BlueSuzy wrote: joseph wrote: Not really a fail as long as you buy new ones and not s/h
That was my point. 2nd hand = fail. If he bought new, it wouldn't be fail. It would be Great Success! But we can't do any 'Hating' anyway because master of bodge said so. = Fail again.
how is removing known 25 year old shit off and putting known 20 year old shit on a fail? its a hose FFS its pretty damn obvious if there is a fault with it or not
anyways its a moot point, these hoses arent available new anymore just like most cars more than 6 weeks old cause its easier to just have em made on teh spot to match the old one
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BlueSuzy

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royce wrote: BlueSuzy wrote: joseph wrote: Not really a fail as long as you buy new ones and not s/h
That was my point. 2nd hand = fail. If he bought new, it wouldn't be fail. It would be Great Success! But we can't do any 'Hating' anyway because master of bodge said so. = Fail again. how is removing known 25 year old shit off and putting known 20 year old shit on a fail? its a hose FFS its pretty damn obvious if there is a fault with it or not
This 20yr old hose will have cracks in the outer rubber from age. Yes, this will be obvious to see. But people will still ignore this as sign of age and wear. Its worse than using a second hand heater hose off another car. At least the hose can blow and drive to a safe position to stop. Try doing that with a brakeline.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Sun May 16, 2010 11:55 pm |
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he took the lines off his own car, whats to say they weren't nearly new.
i would use a drinking straw if it would give me brakes. 
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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If they were nearly new. Ok good. But accords are not the type of car to get new lines.
I know you would use a drinking straw shep. But thats the way you do it living on an island. Bush mechanics..
If they were cheap and readily avaliable new near you in suburbia, What would you do? Use a straw, or proper line?
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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BlueSuzy wrote: If they were nearly new. Ok good. But accords are not the type of car to get new lines.
I know you would use a drinking straw shep. But thats the way you do it living on an island. Bush mechanics..
If they were cheap and readily avaliable new near you in suburbia, What would you do? Use a straw, or proper line?
people assume too much and then flame away. the photo that i posted is
what i had to do to keep my car mobile after a near new braided line burst.
why wouldn't an accord get new lines? they are a expensive car.
http://accord.honda.com.au/
i think they start at 40k, hell the piece of crap civic my sis has cost 35k
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atari4x4

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the accord they came off is an early 90's model, the same year his butt ugly headlights came from...
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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Of course a new car gets new lines.
However, how many 90's accords do you see with new lines at a wreckers or onroad? You won't find many.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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BlueSuzy wrote: Of course a new car gets new lines. However, how many 90's accords do you see with new lines at a wreckers or onroad? You won't find many.
how many people here still have the original lines on their cars? my vit does, theres nothing wrong with em and is unlikely to ever be before the rest of the car wears out.
youve got as much chance of the lines already fitted being as bad or worse as what you are putting on, likewise the custome made ones you fit that were made by the work experiance kid could well blow and you would never know, how many people here have cleaned oil off a brake show or replaced a set of shoes without replacing the cylinders, thats worse from a failure point of view
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Joe

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Hey Royce your avatar pic cracks me up aye
The little dude goes off 
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Chop

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I say its better to not over stretch some longer secondhand ones than ping off the just as old if not older originals on the suzuki.
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BlueSuzy

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Why do wreckers not sell brakelines?
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Jccck
Joined: Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 706
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Holy replies batman!
Ok~
Wasn't aware you can't buy second hand lines sorry
But as said, new lines are cheap anyway.. Possibly cheaper than extended custom lines
The pedal is actually very good, but it took AGES to bleed the entire system of air
I went over the lines, no cracks or signs of age.. Just a bit of dirt
So far the Accord has given me well over $1000 worth of parts into both my other 91 Accord and my Zook, all in good nick.. Money well saved imo
I think you're just hating because it's a Honda
For everyone who appreciates the info on these lines, thanks guys.. Happy to help
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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Jccck wrote: I think you're just hating because it's a Honda
Oh yeah i so hate honda's, i owned 2 of them..
Excellent cars.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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BlueSuzy wrote: Why do wreckers not sell brakelines?
Wheres the legislation that says they cant sell them?
why have wreckers asked that hoses arent cut when removing calipers, why have I been asked if I wanted the hoses as well when buying calipers?
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Jccck
Joined: Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 706
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royce wrote: BlueSuzy wrote: Why do wreckers not sell brakelines? Wheres the legislation that says they cant sell them? why have wreckers asked that hoses arent cut when removing calipers, why have I been asked if I wanted the hoses as well when buying calipers?
It could just be a liability thing for some wreckers
They won't sell you 2nd hand hoses/lines because if they fail and you hurt/kill yourself.. They're gonna be in a heap of shit for it
Whereas they can totally avoid that issue by not selling parts that easily become unsafe
I think it would just depend where you went as to what the rules are
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royce

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why are they allowed to sell flywheels and other things that spin? one of them let go good chance your legs will end up not attached to you
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Jccck
Joined: Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 706
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Guess you'd have to ask them man, i'm not entirely sure what second hand goods can be resold safely
I think the idea with the hoses/lines though is that they can be cracking on the inside, but still look alright from the outside.. Meaning an unsafe product is deemed safe, and sold
Whereas with a flywheel, belt, pully, harmonic ballancer, engine mount or so.. You can visibly see that the item is on the way out.. And throw it in the trash
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