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neilss
Joined: Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 72 Location: adel
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yes are nt diffs and wt diffs the same, can you put nt diff in wt
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eldo

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Joined: Sat May 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2770 Location: sunny coast
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no they dont bolt in, the centres are the same and that is about it, they also have different ratios 3.7 in NT and 3.9 in WT
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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ER are you sure?
As far as I know, WT and NT diff centres are the same.
I know NT diffs run 4 gear front centres and WT are two gear, but nonetheless the carrier is the same so it's all interchangeable.
Yes NT is 3.9 ratio and WT is 3.7
Steve.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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pretty sure eldo said the centers are the same there already, yet you wish to correct him by saying the centers are the same
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eldo

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Joined: Sat May 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2770 Location: sunny coast
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royce wrote: pretty sure eldo said the centers are the same there already, yet you wish to correct him by saying the centers are the same
steve read before posting old mate
cheers royce
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neilss
Joined: Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 72 Location: adel
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ok i was hoping is was a straight swap over
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neilss
Joined: Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 72 Location: adel
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 Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 11:13 am |
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so is there away to put a nt diff in wt
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eldo

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Joined: Sat May 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2770 Location: sunny coast
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you can use the centre, but not the housing or axles etc. are you just looking for a replacement diff? if so it is best to put a complete WT diff in if you can get it or replace the centre with another WT centre. the axles are too short and the hand brake will be different etc etc. most people like myself with a NT want to put WT diffs in at NT spring spacing to allow for more flex, this may be where your confusion is coming from. the only other mod that involves WT diffs and NT parts is to put the NT centres in to lower the diff ratio from 3.7 in a WT to the 3.9's from a NT. i hope this clears it all up for you
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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royce wrote: pretty sure eldo said the centers are the same there already, yet you wish to correct him by saying the centers are the same
I think that steve may have ready the OP's post as 'diff' meaning the entire diff/ axle assembly, not the centre/ 3rd member as intended. In which case steve would be right in what he said.
A little more info from the OP would have avoided this.
Back on topic, yes NT and WT centres are inter-changable.
Pete
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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the CV's are the same as well 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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shep wrote: the CV's are the same as well 
If yo can get em off the axle's with out damage. 
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eldo

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Joined: Sat May 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2770 Location: sunny coast
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eldo wrote: no they dont bolt in, the centres are the same and that is about it, they also have different ratios 3.7 in NT and 3.9 in WT
to end any confusion the term "no they dont bolt in" refers to the whole complete diff, not the centre
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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Fatzook wrote: royce wrote: pretty sure eldo said the centers are the same there already, yet you wish to correct him by saying the centers are the same I think that steve may have ready the OP's post as 'diff' meaning the entire diff/ axle assembly, not the centre/ 3rd member as intended. In which case steve would be right in what he said. A little more info from the OP would have avoided this. Back on topic, yes NT and WT centres are inter-changable. Pete
So in this post you are confirming that he also corrected eldo saying the diffs arent bolt in but the centers are the same,just like eldo said anyway?
you all need more sleep, you are confusing me!
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Fatzook

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royce wrote: you all need more sleep, you are confusing me!
Thats the only reason we come here 
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BlueSuzy

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Interchangeable diff centres into a WT Sierra.
1L Later model Maruti's. (4.1)
1.3 Maruti's Front and rear. (4.1?)
1.3 NT Front and rear (3.9) Including Drovers.
1.3 WT Front and rear (3.7)
Rear Coily (3.9) (front will fit but hipinion= more drama's)
Rear Jimny (4.09)
Vitara Front. Various ratios. But alloy casting. Gearset can be swapped into a Sierra or Vitara steel carrier.
Centres that are not interchangable into a WT Sierra.
1L NT Front and Rear
Jimny front
Lj
If your putting a rear diff centre into the front, You will need to change the spider gears for the front axles. Smaller axles mean smaller splines for suzuki's. And visa versa for the rear.
Ratios MUST match front and back.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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BlueSuzy wrote: Interchangeable diff centres into a WT Sierra.
1L Later model Maruti's. (4.1) 1.3 Maruti's Front and rear. (4.1?) 1.3 NT Front and rear (3.9) Including Drovers. 1.3 WT Front and rear (3.7) Rear Coily (3.9) (front will fit but hipinion= more drama's) Rear Jimny (4.09) Vitara Front. Various ratios. But alloy casting. Gearset can be swapped into a Sierra or Vitara steel carrier.
Centres that are not interchangable into a WT Sierra.
1L NT Front and Rear Jimny front Lj
If your putting a rear diff centre into the front, You will need to change the spider gears for the front axles. Smaller axles mean smaller splines for suzuki's. And visa versa for the rear. Not if you are running chromos
Ratios MUST match front and back.
I wasn't aware that Marutis were available in Australia as a 1.3L? 
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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BlueSuzy

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ok. No 1.3 maruti's then.
I just though i'd clear up the mess that you guys made. 1 hell of a read! Worse then some noobs on ere!
Like i said, bigger the axle, bigger the spline number. i.e Cromo's. But Cromo's are not a standard option. Its aftermarket. May as well say a rear locker will fit in the front with front spider gears etc or chromo's. But that wasnt the main question!
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Fatzook

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BlueSuzy wrote: . But that wasnt the main question!
How did we get so far off topic? I blame Eldo 
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eldo

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Joined: Sat May 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2770 Location: sunny coast
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Fatzook wrote: BlueSuzy wrote: . But that wasnt the main question! How did we get so far off topic? I blame Eldo 
we should call it buttercup!!
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xedent

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Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 895 Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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So what year maruti 1l centers will fit wt ? Will my 90 model ones fit ?
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