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Trent1
Joined: Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 104 Location: North Maclean
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Hey guys how do i undo the crankshaft bolt on my sierra we have tried impact gun, jarring the head of the bolt with a hammer, have tried jarring the bolt with a spanner and hammer and have also wound the motor over with a long break over bar and nothing has moved. Heating the bolt is a last option
Any advise would be greatly appreciated
Thanks Trent
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lukes_89
Joined: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1204 Location: sunshine coast
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what size rattle gun did you use? i needed a big one which we bought from supercheap for like 70$ the size up from what comes with the normal supercheap one. not the best quality but very rarely used so does the trick
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Trent1
Joined: Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 104 Location: North Maclean
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Don't known Dad uses it when he was working as a machanic it will snap wheel studs if your not carefull
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11_evl
Joined: Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 846 Location: logan reserve, Brisb
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put a scoket and breaker bar on it. position it so it will hit chassis rail and than crank motor.
do a few flicks first
give it a good hit with hammer and also spray
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
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Trent1 wrote: Don't known Dad uses it when he was working as a machanic it will snap wheel studs if your not carefull
....or crank shaft bolts 
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 9:19 am |
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11_evl wrote: put a scoket and breaker bar on it. position it so it will hit chassis rail and than crank motor. do a few flicks first
give it a good hit with hammer and also spray
this!!!
make sure its done up tight too or youll flog the keyway
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
Vehicle: MY2019 Jimny
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royce wrote: 11_evl wrote: put a scoket and breaker bar on it. position it so it will hit chassis rail and than crank motor. do a few flicks first
give it a good hit with hammer and also spray this!!! make sure its done up tight too or youll flog the keyway
He said they did this in his first post...
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Glavas
Joined: Thu May 06, 2010 2:13 pm Posts: 322 Location: Adelaide
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Breaker bar on it, go get a long piece of metal pipe. Slot the pipe over the bar for added leverage!
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2stroker
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2689 Location: North Brisbane
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I find it hard to believe that you have put a breaker bar from the bolt head to the chassis and cranked the engine over with the key, that is a hell of a lot of torque, enough to snap the bolt head off.
Take the lead out of the coil so it doesnt start, have the end of the bar 5-6 inches off the chassis and then try, watch you don't get your fingers caught.
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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i couldnt get mine off by cranking it with a breaker bar either
i used heat and then a big rattlegun to get it off, still took me 2 weeks of trying shit to get it off. There is heaps of locktite on there
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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On a Civic i had a 2Metre breaker bar..
Engine torque was not enough. 1.6efi..
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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2stroker wrote: I find it hard to believe that you have put a breaker bar from the bolt head to the chassis and cranked the engine over with the key, that is a hell of a lot of torque, enough to snap the bolt head off.
Take the lead out of the coil so it doesnt start, have the end of the bar 5-6 inches off the chassis and then try, watch you don't get your fingers caught.
x2, pull the plugs and get 50 odd degrees of run up, might take a few goes but it will get it
you need fast hard hits to undo bolts, applying massive force with large bars and pipes are how bolts snap, then you really are screwed
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Glavas
Joined: Thu May 06, 2010 2:13 pm Posts: 322 Location: Adelaide
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2stroker wrote: I find it hard to believe that you have put a breaker bar from the bolt head to the chassis and cranked the engine over with the key, that is a hell of a lot of torque, enough to snap the bolt head off.
Take the lead out of the coil so it doesnt start, have the end of the bar 5-6 inches off the chassis and then try, watch you don't get your fingers caught.
they're a high tensile item are they not? Had a similar problem with a mate's car, it rounded the head rather than snapping it.
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ZookiMonsta
Joined: Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1625 Location: Jimboomba
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Well we got it off, took two men and a 2m long breaker bar. Broke an
engine mount just before it came undone. I'll put picks up soon. Was
crazy tight. Just wanna thank Trent & Peter for helping me. 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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How were you locking up the eng???
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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BlueSuzy wrote: On a Civic i had a 2Metre breaker bar..
Engine torque was not enough. 1.6efi..
That's cos Honda engines run backwards 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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ScrawnC wrote: BlueSuzy wrote: On a Civic i had a 2Metre breaker bar..
Engine torque was not enough. 1.6efi.. That's cos Honda engines run backwards 
Not all!!!! 
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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steknig wrote: ScrawnC wrote: BlueSuzy wrote: On a Civic i had a 2Metre breaker bar..
Engine torque was not enough. 1.6efi.. That's cos Honda engines run backwards  Not all!!!! 
His Civic does 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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ScrawnC wrote: steknig wrote: ScrawnC wrote: BlueSuzy wrote: On a Civic i had a 2Metre breaker bar..
Engine torque was not enough. 1.6efi.. That's cos Honda engines run backwards  Not all!!!!  His Civic does 
I'll take your word for it as I don't know what he has.
First time I heard thay go backwards I said " bullshit!"
Didn't I look like more of a dickhead than normal. 
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ZookiMonsta
Joined: Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1625 Location: Jimboomba
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steknig wrote: How were you locking up the eng???
I originally had it in low range, standing on the brake. That didn't work
so we took out spark plug on cylinder no.1 and put rope in the to lock it up.
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Ben_Sierra

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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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Why are you undooing the crankshaft bolt anyway, out of interest... I can't think of many reasons to take it out...
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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Ben_Sierra wrote: Why are you undooing the crankshaft bolt anyway, out of interest... I can't think of many reasons to take it out...
Oil seal maybe? I like that it doesn't have to come off for the timing belt 
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Trent1
Joined: Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 104 Location: North Maclean
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Ben_Sierra wrote: Why are you undooing the crankshaft bolt anyway, out of interest... I can't think of many reasons to take it out...
So we can get the crankshaft gear off to replace the oil seal that was leaking
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ZookiMonsta
Joined: Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1625 Location: Jimboomba
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Ben_Sierra wrote: Why are you undooing the crankshaft bolt anyway, out of interest... I can't think of many reasons to take it out...
Yep oil seal, and I did the timing belt at the same time.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 8:47 pm |
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you dont put it in low range, that makes it easier to turn the driveline, 5th gear high range is the way to go
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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ScrawnC wrote: steknig wrote: ScrawnC wrote: BlueSuzy wrote: On a Civic i had a 2Metre breaker bar..
Engine torque was not enough. 1.6efi.. That's cos Honda engines run backwards  Not all!!!!  His Civic does 
I don't have a civic...
Sold it long ago
I was amazed how easy it is to change a timing belt on suzuki engines. So easy!
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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BlueSuzy wrote: I was amazed how easy it is to change a timing belt on suzuki engines. So easy I could do it!
I fikst it for ya Timbo...
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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ThAt's coS mUm sAyS i riDe oN The SmAll bUs coS i'm spEcial!
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 11:57 pm |
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Mmmm deeze winders is taystee!
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losfer

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Joined: Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 977
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ZookiMonsta wrote: Well we got it off, took two men and a 2m long breaker bar. Broke an engine mount just before it came undone. I'll put picks up soon. Was crazy tight. Just wanna thank Trent & Peter for helping me. 
Anyone else you want to thank ?? 
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