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pyrohamish
Joined: Wed May 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 331 Location: Fremantle, WA
Vehicle: '85 Sierra LWB Ute, Lkd 33's
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 Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 5:33 am |
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My starter is going clicky click
Even when i short out the positive and the switching terminal on the starter it will still go 'click', additionally sometimes i can hear the starter whizz around but doesn't seem to engage?
Usually it will wrok properly after 2 or 3 clicks depending on how cold it is
Ideas to fix this?
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dominator
Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 97 Location: Noosa QLD
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 Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 5:50 am |
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it sounds like it is the solenoid. I have never pulled a suzuki starter apart so i dont know if the soleniod is rebuildable. i would say pull it off and have a look see. my mates 80 series was doing the same thing and it was the contacts in the solenoid were worn. i welded some solder on the contact points and it was good as new.
_________________ Sierra, Ute Chop, Tube Tray, 1.6 EFI, locked F&R,
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89_tintop

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Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3159 Location: gold coast
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 Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 6:35 am |
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the starter motors on the suzukis are a completely different set up to the landcruiser starters. the contacts can not be replaced easily.
and dominator you can buy the contacts in the landcruiser starter motors as a replacement part. they arent that expensive. i would suggest changing them them as solder is as hard wearing as what was original.
try wiring up a starter relay. over time wiring gets resistance in it. causing a voltage drop. so the trigger wire wont be receiving battery voltage during crank.
you will need a relay, some lengths of wiring and some crimp terminal
if your not sure how to wire up the relay it is as followed
pin 30 - to battery positive (i pick this up from the main feed to the starter motor)
pin 85 - to the trigger wire on the starter motor
pin 86 - to earth
pin 87 - to the trigger on the starter motor (where the trigger wire was)
i would be doing this first as it is an in expensive thing to do and works a treat. if it wasnt starting at all then i would suggest a starter motor
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pyrohamish
Joined: Wed May 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 331 Location: Fremantle, WA
Vehicle: '85 Sierra LWB Ute, Lkd 33's
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 Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 7:07 am |
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I did think of the relay trick but because it still happens when i shorted the terminals I dont reckon it's going to help at all
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89_tintop

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Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3159 Location: gold coast
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what terminals did you short??
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pyrohamish
Joined: Wed May 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 331 Location: Fremantle, WA
Vehicle: '85 Sierra LWB Ute, Lkd 33's
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 Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 8:08 am |
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The trigger and the positive on the solenoid...effectively giving the trigger as much amperage it wanted
_________________ '88 Tin Top Sierra, '95 JX Vitara Estate
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89_tintop

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Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3159 Location: gold coast
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 Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 8:11 am |
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well in that case i would either
A- replace the starter and wire up a relay
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B- get yours rebuilt and wire up a relay
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dominator
Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 97 Location: Noosa QLD
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 Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 8:55 am |
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yeah solder was only a temporary fix for the weekend. have since replaced the contacts. I wasn't sure if the zook contacts could be accessed or nor.
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89_tintop

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Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3159 Location: gold coast
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 Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:41 am |
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it can be done.. but you have to pull the solenoid apart. no where near as easy as the nippon-denso units that the cruiser has.
i always replace it with a new solenoid
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