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Junior_91
Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1084 Location: Ipswich
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Hey guys a mate of mine is in the middle of a GTI conversion in his old mans sierra and can't get injector pulse or spark.
He doesn't know what series motor it is either so can't tell you what that is, is running standard ecu and has had dizzy checked out and it's ok.
Got us baffled any help appreciated 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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 Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:57 pm |
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this might or might not help
http://auszookers.com/index.php?name=Fo ... &start=150
jimbo_jones wrote: steknig wrote: Nice work jimbo! look's a bit busy under there. Did the auto lecy's say what was wrong with the harness??  there was a brown/white wire that had to be connected to the - of the coil to give a pulse to the computer so it knew the motor was running I still need to make up a speed sensor though
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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make sure everything that needs to be earthed is, that is what i found when i couldnt get injector pulse 1 pissy little earth. Get the pinouts for the ecu and test then follow every wire to make sure it is correct.
The ecu i got with mine was fried from the previous owners attempts at wiring it up, of course i spent days trying to figure out the problem before i got another ecu to try and bingo.
On baleno ecu's if you are not sure of the pinouts on the diagram you can remove the ecu cover and they are written on the circutboard, not sure bout gti's.
painstaking yes i know but foolproof.
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:05 pm |
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what dizzy is he useing?
is the afm seperate from the intake.. if it is its mrk2/3 if its not mr1
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Junior_91
Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1084 Location: Ipswich
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 Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 11:46 pm |
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Dizzy is out of the coily zook it was in. I think the afm is seperate.
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losfer

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Joined: Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 977
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 Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:57 am |
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i can help you with this but you have to be more specific , does the afm bolt to the throttle body or not ? take some pics and post.
if you can take some pics of the cylinder head between the intake manifold and the thermostat housing , or the timing belt with the top cover off , or the intake manfold and throttle body , i can tell you what years your engine was from ...
does the fuel pump prime when you turn the ignition on ? if it does you have a problem with the crank angle sensor most likely , the ecu wont fire injectors without a cas signal. if it doesnt prime , its most likely a power or earth problem to the ecu.
alternitavely if you post the "33920-xxxxx" part number of the ecu i can identify your setup and can help you locate the problem easier ..
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Junior_91
Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1084 Location: Ipswich
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 Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 10:56 am |
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losfer wrote: i can help you with this but you have to be more specific , does the afm bolt to the throttle body or not ? take some pics and post. if you can take some pics of the cylinder head between the intake manifold and the thermostat housing , or the timing belt with the top cover off , or the intake manfold and throttle body , i can tell you what years your engine was from ...
does the fuel pump prime when you turn the ignition on ? if it does you have a problem with the crank angle sensor most likely , the ecu wont fire injectors without a cas signal. if it doesnt prime , its most likely a power or earth problem to the ecu.
alternitavely if you post the "33920-xxxxx" part number of the ecu i can identify your setup and can help you locate the problem easier ..
Cheers for that i'll get them up asap.
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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Junior_91 wrote: Dizzy is out of the coily zook it was in. I think the afm is seperate.
how it the dizzy mounted?
its not exactly a straight bolt on.... if it is a sierra..
this is a mk1 with sierra dizzy
does it look like this??

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Junior_91
Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1084 Location: Ipswich
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jonno_racing

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Mk1
ok i had the same issue... is the fuel pump switching on?
is the fuel pump reley hooked up though the computer?
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Junior_91
Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1084 Location: Ipswich
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 Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:09 am |
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Fuel pump triggered by a diferent source.
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Junior_91
Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1084 Location: Ipswich
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 Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:11 am |
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it's the ecu not firing up no inj pulse with noid light fitted and no spark thats what my mate just told me.
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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 Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:49 am |
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well the spark should run though the standard wiring for the car??
pm me and i will give you my number i had hell getting mine to go, your mate can call me.
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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 Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:02 am |
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swap the plug for the mass air flow sensor with that of the throttle position sensor and see if it fires. mk1's have the same plug for these two items.
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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 Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 9:12 am |
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i think the problem is in the wiring to the fuel pump.... the computer has to switch a relay (fuel pump circuit) or u get no injector pulse.
i sent a pm with my number, waiting on the call....
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Junior_91
Joined: Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1084 Location: Ipswich
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 Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:26 am |
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Have passed the number on mate he will call you 
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