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dave07

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Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 329 Location: Bunbury, WA
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I've just fitted the calmini 3" kit to my vitara but have some camber/wheel alignment issues. i've got some toe in camber issues i was just wondering if theres any chance i could do some home aligning just so i can get it to town to do a proper one.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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there's not much you can do about the camber issue, apart from loosening the control arm bush bolts with the car on the ground & retighten... this might let it settle a bit more.
the toe alignment can be done at home with a couple of broom sticks or 2 things long & straight, lay them against each tyre on the ground & measure the distance infront & behind the tyre.... adjusting the toe so the measurements are the same.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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woohoo - post some pics of the new lift =) now its going to look AND sound mean!
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gregdixon

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1017 Location: Perth
Vehicle: 2004 SQ625 GV
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If you have camber bolts fitted you can check your camber with a spirit level against the rim. Just make sure it is vertical and not toching the tyre.
I had to drive my car 70k's the get the alignment checked so I used a spirit level against the rim. Got it to the shop and they didn't touch the camber as it was in specs only the toe in was changed.
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dave07

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Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 329 Location: Bunbury, WA
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how and where do u fit camber bolts? also where can i buy them?
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SuziBlu
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4268 Location: Eyre Peninsula
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I didn't think camber was adjustable on a 4be without a camber kit.
Are camber bolts and camber kits the same ?
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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pedders for camber bolts & the go in the 2 bolt holes that bolt the strut to the knuckle.
some people have used 2 camber bolts on each side to get it back into alignment. SiKiD_01 elongated the hole to get the camber he was after.
http://auszookers.com/index.php?name=Fo ... c&start=60
SiKiD_01 wrote: on all of my vits, they have had more than 3" in the Sus lift dept. so, all i do is take out the top bolt of the strut to knuckle, knock the knuckle all the way in until it hits the strut body, die grind out the strut holes and re fit the bolt. this was enough and in some cases, did result in a bit of race camber. all that means is that you can go higher.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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SuziBlu wrote: I didn't think camber was adjustable on a 4be without a camber kit.
Are camber bolts and camber kits the same ?
cabmer bolt/kits are pretty much the same, some have an adjustable strut top to dial in the camber but usually only found on street cars/rice mobiles
solid axles are a bit hard to adjust camber on but on IFS it's no biggie.
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SuziBlu
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4268 Location: Eyre Peninsula
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Ah, sorry, IFS, doh
im used to beam axle 4bes, forgot the IFS bit.
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gregdixon

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1017 Location: Perth
Vehicle: 2004 SQ625 GV
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Not to dear either around $70. Mine are: EZ cam cam bolts #5.81250K.
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dave07

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Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 329 Location: Bunbury, WA
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well looks like im going to need to buy some camber bolts tomorrow hopefully i can get the vit back on the road soon!!
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Samurai81
Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 385 Location: Kapiti Coast, New Zealand
Vehicle: Samurai G16, DMax.
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After I fitted the OME suspension lift to my SV420 the outside of my front tyres started to wear like crazy. I took it to a wheel aligner and he didn't even bother to hoist it up.
Said he could see the tyres were cambered out at the top and reckoned I needed different shocks. Well there's no others available with the long travel so I asked around and found most Vit guys slot out the top hole to get enough adjustment. They scribe the strut so that they can be returned to the same spot after maintenance.
I'm a bit concerned about them moving after hitting rocks etc so I'm getting a pair of camber bolts from Low Range to see if they give me enough adjustment.
Steve.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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My Vit hand book says TOE IN should be between 2 - 6 mm.
But does that mean front of front wheels point inward slightly?
IE front of tyre 2-6mm less than rear of front tyre measurement.
Mines currently 0mm IE dead straight.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:56 am |
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yep, that's toe in, camber is the top of the tyres pointing in.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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atari4x4 wrote: yep, that's toe in, camber is the top of the tyres pointing in.
Done camber as good as I can. Just wasn't sure of terminology.
So I will guestimate the toe in adjustment as soon as hail storm subsides.
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inbits
Joined: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:30 am Posts: 600 Location: qld
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Has anyone got a pic of camber bolts vs standard ones? And a pic of them
Fitted.
If you were to slot the top hole to get the adjustment wouldn't it shift under the load and suspension cycle Throwing the camber out again.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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