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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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hi all,
i did a search and had a bit of a read but didnt find what i was after.
i am after some OME extended struts for my 96 vitara; arb is the only place to buy them, correct? and how much should i expect to pay? i have heard some say $200 but then say upto $350ea.
once i have these struts i need new springs, i can get kings and lovells at trade price. should i get these? if not how much are ome springs? (40mm lift)
cheers for any help in advance. for those that are wondering, i will be doing this plus a 2" bl to run 30's.
Mitch
Last edited by shandy92 on Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:49 am, edited 1 time in total.
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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struts 230 each, springs 110 each.
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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joeblow wrote: struts 230 each, springs 110 each.
cheers joe, will that be a price nation wide? if i can get those springs at that price then ill get them, as i was getting kings at $107 from memory.
anybody got/used dobinson struts? how much are they?
cheers
Mitch
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dm90
Joined: Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4349 Location: Perth
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just call around and ask for prices, thats what i did before i got my lift.
WA suspensions are pretty good and malaga suspensions too.
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Mick70b
Joined: Sun May 09, 2010 9:14 am Posts: 265 Location: Sydney West
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I think you will find the Dobinsons are cheaper and are still a +40mm strut, this is what I will be getting in the not too distance future. I know a few guys using them and they haven't had any troubles.
As far as springs go you could opt for standard GV/XL7 fronts and get a genuine 2" lift and a nice ride as well, that's what I'm running at the moment with a V6 and full size alloy bar.
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DarkHorse

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Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 5413
Vehicle: 08 SV650
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Joe's prices are what I paid a little while back.
The GV Tough Dog stuff I have in the rear sit about 40mm higher than the 1.6 OME stuff in the front, so I'd guess that GV stuff up front would be about that much higher. Wish I'd known that at the time!
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Joe

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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
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joeblow wrote: struts 230 each, springs 110 each.
Really  the ARB store in Rockingham quoted me $370 each 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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joseph wrote: joeblow wrote: struts 230 each, springs 110 each. Really  the ARB store in Rockingham quoted me $370 each 
yeah but they're still waiting to hear about the new ranga PM we have over hear. 
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Joe

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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
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atari4x4 wrote: joseph wrote: joeblow wrote: struts 230 each, springs 110 each. Really  the ARB store in Rockingham quoted me $370 each  yeah but they're still waiting to hear about the new ranga PM we have over hear. 
Huh what ranga PM

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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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DarkHorse wrote: Joe's prices are what I paid a little while back.
The GV Tough Dog stuff I have in the rear sit about 40mm higher than the 1.6 OME stuff in the front, so I'd guess that GV stuff up front would be about that much higher. Wish I'd known that at the time!
so are u saying to go get some, 40mm gv front springs from TD?? and i should get how much lift?? 40 or 80mm?
i already run 180sx + commo shocks in the rear, so i need to do the front.
cheers
Mitch
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matty_wall
Joined: Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 989 Location: Blue Mountains
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Be weary of kings. my front ones only lifted my car about 15mm. i had to use spacers to even it out. although i may have been unlucky and gotten a dud pair.
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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matty_wall wrote: Be weary of kings. my front ones only lifted my car about 15mm. i had to use spacers to even it out. although i may have been unlucky and gotten a dud pair.
ok thanks for that, could u not of taken them back under warranty? i haven't really heard much about kings. anyone else had problems with them??
cheers
mitch
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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Kings, like OME offer a lot of different options for springs and sometimes parts people jsut pluck the first number out
I'm keen on trying OME XL7 fronts, but too lazy to do anything about it 
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DarkHorse

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Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 5413
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shandy92 wrote: so are u saying to go get some, 40mm gv front springs from TD?? and i should get how much lift?? 40 or 80mm?
i already run 180sx + commo shocks in the rear, so i need to do the front.
cheers Mitch
TD or OME, both good brands from what I've heard. 1.6 vs GV depends how high you want to go - the standard OME stuff for a 1.6 will only lift it 30-40mm higher than standard (inch and a bit)... the GV stuff will lift it about 40mm higher than that (somewhere around 3")... measure the difference between your front and rear now if you want them level.
Also be aware that because the GV stuff is designed for a heavier car (bigger motor etc) that the ride would probably be quite harsh (even the 1.6 setup is pretty rough until you load up with bar, winch etc) so bear that in mind. Adding 3" to your front suspension may also result in quite nasty CV angles, so maybe consider diff-drop brackets as well (do a search for the arguments about them!)
Please also remember that this is just from my experience with fitting half and half, so your combination may give different results.
Oh, and I misread above, my OME struts cost over $300 - the pair of struts and springs totalled over $900.
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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should have been no more than 700 in a metropolitan area.
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mick80
Joined: Sun Aug 15, 2010 12:54 am Posts: 14 Location: mackay qld
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i got qouted 209.86 per strut
109.18 per front coils
134.50 per rear shock
and 109.18 per rear coil
4 a total of 1125.48
plus 236 fitting charge
cheers mick
oh yeah that price was mackay arb
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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mick80 wrote: i got qouted 209.86 per strut 109.18 per front coils 134.50 per rear shock and 109.18 per rear coil 4 a total of 1125.48 plus 236 fitting charge cheers mick oh yeah that price was mackay arb
thanks for that, like i said b4 i dont need to worry about the rear but thanks for the prices anyway.
darkhorse- thanks for the info, i dont think i will go for the gv stuff as i just measure the difference between front and rear, rim lip to guard- is only 40mm. so with the normal springs it should make it level.
i can always add a spacer to the rear and change to the gv spring for more height later.
cheers
Mitch
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cossie
Joined: Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 29 Location: sydney
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will GV front springs fit a swb vit?
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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cossie wrote: will GV front springs fit a swb vit?
im not 100% sure as i havnt dont it, obviously. from what others have been saying then i think the answer will be yes. ill let others confirm tho
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Joe

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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
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cossie wrote: will GV front springs fit a swb vit?
Im preaty sure they do
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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got an email back from dobinsons " The cost to supply Dobinsons struts and coils is combined $556. (Coils are $181 and Struts $375)"
have heard a few people say good thing about these, so might go with these. just checking that these are an extended strut not std length??
does anybody run these, what do u think?? is the lift from the coils decent?
cheers
Mitch
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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shandy92 wrote: got an email back from dobinsons " The cost to supply Dobinsons struts and coils is combined $556. (Coils are $181 and Struts $375)"
have heard a few people say good thing about these, so might go with these. just checking that these are an extended strut not std length??
does anybody run these, what do u think?? is the lift from the coils decent?
cheers Mitch
bump, will be ordering the dobinson springs and struts in a week or so. what does everyone think of them?
cheers
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
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shandy92 wrote: shandy92 wrote: got an email back from dobinsons " The cost to supply Dobinsons struts and coils is combined $556. (Coils are $181 and Struts $375)"
have heard a few people say good thing about these, so might go with these. just checking that these are an extended strut not std length??
does anybody run these, what do u think?? is the lift from the coils decent?
cheers Mitch bump, will be ordering the dobinson springs and struts in a week or so. what does everyone think of them? cheers
When i was doing my research for my GV suspension lift, going thru other 4WD forums etc, Dobinson rated pretty high, better than OME, and Dobinson have a very good replacement warranty if anything should go wrong... if i had had $500 more at the time, i may have got Dobinson at $1300 for a full kit... but for that price i got my Kit, and it fitted, for the same price... but yeah, Dobinson is good stuff ! 
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flatcat_auz

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Joined: Tue Oct 05, 2010 6:06 am Posts: 154 Location: Nth of Syd.
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Dobinsons springs with Bilstein Struts.
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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flatcat_auz wrote: Dobinsons springs with Bilstein Struts.
how much are a set of bilstein struts? and whats the advantage with them?
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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mick80 wrote: i got qouted 209.86 per strut 109.18 per front coils 134.50 per rear shock and 109.18 per rear coil 4 a total of 1125.48 plus 236 fitting charge cheers mick oh yeah that price was mackay arb
Nice!
Just as a comparison
Koni adjustable front struts $280ea
Koni adjustable rear shock $145ea
King spring $105 ea
The front struts are to suit 40mm lift, but I fear the coils are closer to 50mm, so I will do a strut top flip.
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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Fatzook wrote: mick80 wrote: i got qouted 209.86 per strut 109.18 per front coils 134.50 per rear shock and 109.18 per rear coil 4 a total of 1125.48 plus 236 fitting charge cheers mick oh yeah that price was mackay arb Nice! Just as a comparison Koni adjustable front struts $280ea Koni adjustable rear shock $145ea King spring $105 ea The front struts are to suit 40mm lift, but I fear the coils are closer to 50mm, so I will do a strut top flip.
is that saying "i will be doing a strut flip on mine" or saying "i would recommend doing the strut top flip over the struts"
are the struts ok tho? they are $95 cheaper than the dobinson, so could be an option.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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I AM doing one, as I think the struts are a little short for the springs I have chosen. They are sold as a matched strut to the springs I bought but I am a little sus on them.
And no I would not do a strut top flip to negate a strut replacement. New struts all the way!!
Koni's are good! Springs are a little firm, but I'm waiting for someone to make some barwork for my vit, so that may add the necessary kgs to soften it up a little. 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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Fatzook wrote: I'm waiting for someone to make some barwork for my vit, so that may add the necessary kgs to soften it up a little. 
you should send this guy a PM & ask him for sliders, front & rear barwork, he seems pretty handy with a hacksaw & pop rivit gun....
http://auszookers.com/index.php?name=Fo ... ic&t=13126
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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Nar he seems a bit lazy. Always sayin he'll post pics of sliders but never actually doing it 
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