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Jord
Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 196 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 2012 Jimny, Locked both ends
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hi all
just looking into a few option for the zook in the way of getting some more km's between filling up.
but first i want to make sure my engine aint too thirsty compaired to others.
currently with my webber im gaining about 350kms before i need to fill up. and thats when she is almost dead empty, so to fill up she takes 38L of the 40L tank!
is this sort of milage average for a zook?
i ask as my engine has done about 240,000 and is starting to show her age a little bit, and i dont want to waist time of moding tank mounts, jerry cans etc if i could spend a bit of time on refreshing my engine and gain a couple of ponies and milage at the same time.
thanks
Jordan
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Bruce

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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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That mileage is about average 10.8L/100km
If you want longer range without changing fuel tanks or carrying jerry cans, change the way you drive.
The easiest way to save fuel is to drive at 80km/h max, and you will find your economy is much better, and even long drives only take 15-20 mins longer.
Or slip stream trucks (not very safe)
It is the terrible aerodynamics which give the zooks poor highway fuel economy. Remembering drag is proportional to velocity squared.
Trips may take you a little longer, but you are saving a heap of money and driving is less stressful.
If you did sit at the speed limit and spend more on fuel, the time you saved during the day would probably have been wasted by sitting infront of the tele or on the computer anyway.
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whincup

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Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1588 Location: Gracemere, QLD
Vehicle: '94 suzuki maruti
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jdk81 wrote: the time you saved during the day would probably have been wasted by sitting infront of the tele or on the computer anyway.
time spent watching tv is never wasted!!!!
i get about 330km running the tank to dry, but my speedo is more than 10% off, im actually doing 100km/h when it reads 88km/h. so going off that, i get maybe 360-370km per tank assuming im babying it...
225,000km on the clock, never rebuilt.
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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10-12ltr/100km
thats running 31's 4inch lift <-- yes lift does matter and a efi GTI motor, and that is moataring along, also tassie isnt flat!
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eldo

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Joined: Sat May 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2770 Location: sunny coast
Vehicle: jimny
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hmm click here for easy calculator
http://sikls1.v8owners.com.au/index20.html
mt lwb gets approx 10.26 i think per 100km.. stock with no roof so it has a little drag and thats going from wollongong to helensburgh, up a mountian range
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Moph

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Joined: Sat May 19, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 2535 Location: Perth
Vehicle: 93 Sierra
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I get 11.5L/100km normally ... 13.5L/100km offroad and towing unladen trailer ... 15.0L/100km towing laden trailer
Slipstreaming trucks isn't that bad really. I usually call them on the UHF and ask if they mind me tucking in behind until xxxxx (usually the next roadhouse for a refill...) and I've not had one yet who had a problem with it. Just don't stick *too* close ... you should be able to feel the tail end of the draft by the slight sideways push and pull you'll get in the eddies - keep just ahead of this (about 30m for a road train) and you'll be fine. That gives you about 1s of reaction time assuming you can brake at least as quickly as the roadtrain which is pretty likely!
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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I'm getting 855-870km per tank. (83L tank) 
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Che

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Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2401 Location: Perth
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How much does engine mileage (ie - i've got 220K on the clock) affect the outcome here? Will a rebuilt engine be noticeably more efficient than my old motor?
I'd also like to know what people with carby 1.6 conversions are getting from their sierras/vits
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Zook_Fan

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will let you know on that one, i had a 230K G13B in mine that has just bit the dust. it is being replaced with a 57K G13B out of a barina. It will have more power and hopefully a bit better fuel efficiency
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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That's a cool link eldo, I thrashed my Vitara around town this week & got 12.6l per 100 kms, I might try to drive it a bit more sensibly & see what I get.
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Jccck
Joined: Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 706
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70L Long Ranger tank
1.3L 4K Corolla Engine +5Sp Box
~4000RPM @ 100km/h
And i could drive from Newcastle to Melbourne on a single tank
Not sure if this info helps 
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bigrig91
Joined: Mon May 11, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1308 Location: Redcliffe
Vehicle: 96 LWB Vit, 2.5L powerhouse
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1.6 carby motor, 30's, on a badly tuned sierra carb and i can get anywhere from 300 to 370km on roughtly $35. All depending on how and where i drive, my car hates trips into town it chews the fuel that way.
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atari4x4

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Jccck wrote: 70L Long Ranger tank 1.3L 4K Corolla Engine +5Sp Box ~4000RPM @ 100km/h And i could drive from Newcastle to Melbourne on a single tank Not sure if this info helps 
 but how many kms are you doing to your 70L
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atari4x4

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bigrig91 wrote: 1.6 carby motor, 30's, on a badly tuned sierra carb and i can get anywhere from 300 to 370km on roughtly $35. All depending on how and where i drive, my car hates trips into town it chews the fuel that way.
 but how many litres are you getting for your $35, you do realise that the price of fuel changes daily? 
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atari4x4

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Fatzook wrote: I'm getting 855-870km per tank. (83L tank) 
860kms on 83L = 9.53L/100km
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Myles

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Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 973 Location: Samford QLD
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270km to a full tank (37 litres ish - dinted)...
Go figure? 235's and a rebuilt engine with 11,000ks on it.. I think i just need to take it a bit easier on the throttle maybe...
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atari4x4

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Myles wrote: 270km to a full tank (37 litres ish - dinted)...
Go figure? 235's and a rebuilt engine with 11,000ks on it.. I think i just need to take it a bit easier on the throttle maybe...
13.7L/100kms
Click on Eldo's cool milage calculator
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matty87
Joined: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 794 Location: the wild west
Vehicle: 1987 sierra tray back buggy
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atari4x4 wrote: Myles wrote: 270km to a full tank (37 litres ish - dinted)...
Go figure? 235's and a rebuilt engine with 11,000ks on it.. I think i just need to take it a bit easier on the throttle maybe... 13.7L/100kms Click on Eldo's cool milage calculator
shit boy my hilux gives better economy than that and thats driven hard changing at 6000rpm generally trying to uses as much fuel as posible
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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11 - 12 ltrs p/100kms with 1.6 baleno motor
6:5 gears, 4.1 diffs and 31's
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toiletduck
Joined: Tue Aug 17, 2010 5:02 am Posts: 266 Location: Melbourne
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Normally around 260 - 280 kms per tank, motor is running a bit rough though.
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96coily
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:37 am Posts: 1420 Location: Perth Hills
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70L Long Ranger tank
32/36 DGV 5a Weber progressive two barrel carb
tuned length extractors 2 1/4" inch straight thru exhaust
235's stock gearing
I'm getting close to 800 k's a tank driving from Perth to Kal sitting just under 100Kpm which is more like 110 with the tyres
Mind you with Camo paint I might go further 
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Gadzooks
Joined: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 71 Location: Country SA
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8.5L per 100km
Stockman 1L
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Myles

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Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 973 Location: Samford QLD
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matty87 wrote: atari4x4 wrote: Myles wrote: 270km to a full tank (37 litres ish - dinted)...
Go figure? 235's and a rebuilt engine with 11,000ks on it.. I think i just need to take it a bit easier on the throttle maybe... 13.7L/100kms Click on Eldo's cool milage calculatorshit boy my hilux gives better economy than that and thats driven hard changing at 6000rpm generally trying to uses as much fuel as posible
Yeah I have foot flat to the floor allot of the time aswell. It is running a bit rich though an the trip meter would be out because of the bigger tyres. Speedo is out by about 8%.. but yeh, still pretty crap for a 1.3l engine in a 900kg car lol
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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Myles wrote: matty87 wrote: atari4x4 wrote: Myles wrote: 270km to a full tank (37 litres ish - dinted)...
Go figure? 235's and a rebuilt engine with 11,000ks on it.. I think i just need to take it a bit easier on the throttle maybe... 13.7L/100kms Click on Eldo's cool milage calculatorshit boy my hilux gives better economy than that and thats driven hard changing at 6000rpm generally trying to uses as much fuel as posible Yeah I have foot flat to the floor allot of the time aswell. It is running a bit rich though an the trip meter would be out because of the bigger tyres. Speedo is out by about 8%.. but yeh, still pretty crap for a 1.3l engine in a 900kg car lol
Think your carby needs a little love 
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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what isnt 10-11lt per 100 good enough for you?
sierra's are probably one step more areodynamic than a house brick or shipping container.
live with it tight arse or buy a corolla 
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Myles

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Nah it never used to bother me, just sucks when I'm trying to save $250 of my $300 per week wages and my car costs me $60 a week in petrol to go to school lol. Also my best mates 93 barina gets like 500ks to a 40l tank so he allways pays me out about it lol.
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Joined: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1917 Location: brisbane
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Fatzook wrote: Myles wrote: matty87 wrote: atari4x4 wrote: Myles wrote: 270km to a full tank (37 litres ish - dinted)...
Go figure? 235's and a rebuilt engine with 11,000ks on it.. I think i just need to take it a bit easier on the throttle maybe... 13.7L/100kms Click on Eldo's cool milage calculatorshit boy my hilux gives better economy than that and thats driven hard changing at 6000rpm generally trying to uses as much fuel as posible Yeah I have foot flat to the floor allot of the time aswell. It is running a bit rich though an the trip meter would be out because of the bigger tyres. Speedo is out by about 8%.. but yeh, still pretty crap for a 1.3l engine in a 900kg car lol Think your carby needs a little love 
and the engine judging by the oil that was in the batcave
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96coily
Joined: Fri Jun 04, 2010 11:37 am Posts: 1420 Location: Perth Hills
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Myles wrote: Nah it never used to bother me, just sucks when I'm trying to save $250 of my $300 per week wages and my car costs me $60 a week in petrol to go to school lol. Also my best mates 93 barina gets like 500ks to a 40l tank so she allways pays me out about it lol.
You get paid out by ya best mate who drives a Barina
What's her name 
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Jord
Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 196 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 2012 Jimny, Locked both ends
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hey i drive a 94 barina! a purple one:p
but i only drive it when its cold so i can have the heater
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