[819FKA]

hi guys i did a RUF conversion on my zook a while ago and changed the leaves this weekend to EFS Brand newies, now my shackles sit almost completely flat, the shocks are new the leaves are new and the bushes are fuked, but would bushes comtribute to the shackles not having a angle and laying flat, any help on this and my other drama would be greatly appreciated

[royce]

they are shorter, does it sit higher now?

[819FKA]

no the EFS 1s are longer the the kings, but i dont nderstand if the EFS jobbies are brand new with load leaves how can the sit lower and cause the shackles to lay foward flat

[ajsr]

sounds like the main leaf is shorter or has a larger arch.
pics?
standard shackles ?

[ajsr]

819FKA wrote:

no the EFS 1s are longer the the kings, but i dont nderstand if the EFS jobbies are brand new with load leaves how can the sit lower and cause the shackles to lay foward flat

you mean flat as in horizontal?

[alex]

flat as in inverted?? i had the same problem when i went EFS so i moved my front shackel mount forward more or i guess you could fit longer shackels

[joeblow]

ajsr wrote:

819FKA wrote:

no the EFS 1s are longer the the kings, but i dont nderstand if the EFS jobbies are brand new with load leaves how can the sit lower and cause the shackles to lay foward flat

you mean flat as in horizontal?

yep, the efs ones are longer than most other springs.

[lukes_89]

i was going to say longer spring pushing the shackle to sit on more of an angle

[ajsr]

different springs
move mounts
or longer shackles
not many other choices

[819FKA]

longer shackles wont fix it, i seem 2 think they r 2 soft and long, so ill put them in the rear and try my rear kings in the front

[SuziBlu]

How can longer shackles not fix it ?

[819FKA]

i did a quik paint sketch, red is shackle, black is leaf, wouldnt longer shackles pull the spring more foward????

[SuziBlu]

No, the longer shackle will want to bring the angle down, I am not sure of lengths, but as you increase the shackle length, the angle will increase.

Have a squiz at the link, it will help you when getting longer shackles to determine best angle.

[Fatzook]

you could run some anti-inversion shackles???

[shep]

i had the same dramas with my lwb
i could get it to do this just by pushing on the car, or just by getting ball to sit in it.


longer shackles fixed the problem, if you use caster wedges you steering will remain ok.

[819FKA]

yeah they are all rear shot though this is on the front of my car, i already have 2 inch ext shackles i have been advised that the spring rate is way to soft so ill try my kings in the front and efs in the rear

[chris_mac]

same thing happened in my car when i had busted bushes at the front (completely too soft bushes), check with new bushes

[shep]

they may be rear shots however a spring is a spring and i couldn't be
bothered taking photos of my front for ya. just like you probably should have
mentioned the extended shackles in ya first post.

if you had of put a photo up in the first place i wouldn't have wasted 15 min
looking for the photos that i posted.

[Fatzook]

shep wrote:

if you had of put a photo up in the first place i wouldn't have wasted 15 min
looking for the photos that i posted.

Like you've got anything better to do

[shep]

Fatzook wrote:

shep wrote:

if you had of put a photo up in the first place i wouldn't have wasted 15 min
looking for the photos that i posted.

Like you've got anything better to do

i could have been looking at porn or eating food.

[SuziBlu]

More info would have bought about a much different result, doh.

[819FKA]

my apologises for not taking photos in the dark, but i did leave out the bit about the shackles woops

[slyvan1]

in my ruf the front shackles are extended, the mounts are standard except drilling rear mounts 20mm mill back and up. I used king springs hd 2 inch lift. after driving my shackle where flipping over. much the same as the picture drawn. making zook hit bumpstop coming down hills.
just wondering any solutions. the front mount doesn't look like it can be moved very far forward only bout an inch.

[31zook]

move the front forward or replace your bush's

[BlueSuzy]

remount your shackle/spring hangars
or
longer shackles.