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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:03 pm |
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Just went to start redzook, and the after the first go, something started spinning real fast, guessing it is the starter motor, but while it is retracted.
I had to disconnect the battery to get it to stop.
So (because my multimeter is at work) would it be the solenoid that is stuck, or a relay somewhere that is the problem?
Last edited by lump_a_charcoal on Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:18 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:17 pm |
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pull the little wire off the solendoid and if it keeps going its probably the solenoid
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:23 pm |
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:31 pm |
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Yep, the noid.
Thanks Rice.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:36 pm |
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big hammer 
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:38 pm |
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Tried that, still stuck on.
Think I need a new one.
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:43 pm |
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Is it easier to replace the noid on the starter in the car, or to pull the whole thing out?
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:45 pm |
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nah you need to pull it out cause there is a fork and slidy thingy in there
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PJ.zook

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Joined: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 845 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:54 pm |
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If the starter stopped spinning when you pulled the little signal wire off, then its most likely not the solenoid, as thats just a signal wire. If the solenoid was jammed then it would remain spinning, regardless of what the signal wire is doing. Its most likely something else back down the line, which really could only be your ignition barrel.
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:58 pm |
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It stopped spinning when I pulled the battery cable off.
I then disconnected the trigger, reconnected the battery cable, and it started spinning again.
It is the noid.
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PJ.zook

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Joined: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 845 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:09 pm |
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Sweet as. Its weird that just the motor spins without 'throwing out', could be a stuck relay with broken fork, or cracked solenoid causing internal short.
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:13 pm |
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I was thinking they may be designed like that - You don't want it getting stuck on and throwing out at the same time...
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:51 pm |
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I rang up my local parts mongers, they said they have a universal noid, does this sound right? Is it a common part?
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:37 pm |
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hell no!!!
I doubt anyone would list it as a seperate part, would all be new starters only
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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 Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:13 pm |
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Lumpa, So it definately the solinoid??
If it is, you can get another one from a wreckers. I know some lancers have the same starter as the sierra's. but most likely wouldnt want you to pull them apart..
_________________ BlueSuzy wrote: I'm over the G16b's.
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lump_a_charcoal

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 Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:12 am |
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I took another spare to my autolecky, and he tested and cleaned it up for me, so I should be able to just put it on and hope.
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lump_a_charcoal

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 Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:14 am |
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FAAARRRKKKKKKK!!!!!!!
The botom bolt is so tight I have almost rounded it, and now it is raining!
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BlueSuzy

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They are a pita sometimes
Lucky i had oil leaks, No need for wd40!
_________________ BlueSuzy wrote: I'm over the G16b's.
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PJ.zook

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Joined: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 845 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:25 am |
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You definately can get solenoids separately. Ive gotten one for mine and so has Jayson. You have to be careful though, the parts catalogue isnt exactly clear so its best to bring in the solenoid to compare.
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:34 am |
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Yeah Autoone have them for $15 apparently.
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madladBryan
Joined: Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:26 am Posts: 3 Location: Blacktown
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lump_a_charcoal wrote: Just went to start redzook, and the after the first go, something started spinning real fast, guessing it is the starter motor, but while it is retracted. I had to disconnect the battery to get it to stop.
So (because my multimeter is at work) would it be the solenoid that is stuck, or a relay somewhere that is the problem?
[quote="hit it with sledgehammer
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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royce wrote: hell no!!!
I doubt anyone would list it as a seperate part, would all be new starters only
 My lecy does!! 
_________________ I used to be indecisive,
now I'm not so sure.....
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