[96vitara]

hey guys i have a 1996 jx efi vitara, i have compression, i have dead on timing, spark, new plugs, fuel, injectors work, all plugs and wires are plugged in, i bought this thing with the cylinder head off, ive had the head reco'd new head gasket and done all valve clearances, air flow meter is attached, what am i missing?

the car wil turn over with the key but will not stay running, will not idle, if we do manage to get it to idle, its with throttlebody wide open, but never runs more than idle speed, if just got the shits with it and sent it to a mechanic but to keep the cost down, what can i tell him to do/check, so i can finally drive this thing

[TZAR]

send it to stekky's house

he will fix it for ya!!!

[steak_knife]

TZAR wrote:

send it to stekky's house

he will fix it for ya!!!

That would work...

cam timing's out or you have left the main earth off the manifold..

give you $50 for it..

[96vitara]

cam timing is set to manual specifications, main earth is on,

[steak_knife]

96vitara wrote:

cam timing is set to manual specifications, main earth is on,

may sound stupid, but make sure the tail light 15amp fuse is good..!!!!!!!!

[96vitara]

cheers for advice, will try it all, ive started a list whilst doing a thread dig, keep more options coming, i cant wait to get this thing running and doing trips, making custom bars and sliders and puttin inch and a bit of lift under it

[royce]

cam timing, do you have more than 1 notch in the cam pulley? use the other notch

[96vitara]

tried both, and both cam slots in both positions

[royce]

is the keyway on the cam pointing down when you time it to number 1?

check engine light coming on?

[96vitara]

will check cam, engine light on good or bad?

[royce]

good in a way, means its knows whats wrong and will tell you

[96vitara]

i might clarify my origional post, all things up top have been checked, but cam keyway has to be up, othrwise cam is rocking on wrong cylinder as firing order is 1342, i have tried all suggestions posted, nothing will work, car was running, bloke i got it off did he welsh plug in the head and kept driving the thing untill it was so far mixed (water and oil) that he couldnt get it going, so he pulld it apart and thn i grabbed it.
ive done the head gasket got a reco head (maybe thats the problem, will the thing work if its got a different head?) done it all correctly, and it just wont run more than 400 rpm WITH AEROSTART, and throttle full, mechanic sais timing is perfect, checked fuel, spark, compression, and valves, car cranks but thats as far as it goes, if bad earth it wouldnt get that far i guess, comp should work as everything else does,

im asking so i dont have to pay like 40 hours for a mechanic to find something so dam simple, as its probably just that, simple, any help is welcomed,

cheers

[royce]

if you have the keyway up what mark are you lining it up with?

[96vitara]

nothing, thats where mechanic has put it, so that cylinder one valves are all closed so it fired (compression stroke), its wierd i know, but its theoretical, hes tried cam in every position conceivable

[steak_knife]

96vitara wrote:

nothing, thats where mechanic has put it, so that cylinder one valves are all closed so it fired (compression stroke), its wierd i know, but its theoretical, hes tried cam in every position conceivable

You need a new mechanic mate..

[96vitara]

hes pretty handy, and a toyota import specialist, been using him for years, so even though im keen to follow all opinions on here, ill see how he does for now, if he fucks it, he buys it ,,

[JrZook]

96vitara wrote:

and it just wont run more than 400 rpm WITH AEROSTART, and throttle full, mechanic sais timing is perfect, checked fuel, spark, compression, and valves, car cranks but thats as far as it goes, if bad earth it wouldnt get that far i guess, comp should work as everything else does,

cheers

Only runs with areostart hey? Whats the fuel pressure like?

Dan

[96vitara]

its good,

[steak_knife]

96vitara wrote:

its good,

It's fixed?? What was it??

[96vitara]

nah nah its good was referring to fuel pressure question,

more fuckin around today revealed injectors had power but no pulsing, did a bench test on the dizzy and its perfect, so im re-assembling the car and sending it to an efi specialist mate who recons he can figure out whats wrong. im just praying its the last mechanic i have to send it to and no more payments :(

[losfer]

in your first post you said injectors work , but now they dont work ?

i had a similar prob in a baleno that the injectors wouldnt work post crank , turned out to be the air flow meter dirty ... cleaned it with contact cleaner and bang fine again...

[96vitara]

yeah mechanic said he checked em, i think what he meant was he checked that they had power, i dont think he check if they were pulsing until today, and turns out the aren't, so we'll see what efi specialist sais. hopefully its goodnews with a cheap fix

[96vitara]

its running !!!!

after i did the bench test on the dizzy, it must have dislodged some dust or whatever and car was put back togethor ready to be sent to efi specialist and i decided to give it one last crank, and bam it ran like a champion. bit of a clean up and paid some bills and its in my back yard with a rwc

[steak_knife]

Just check the pin's in the connector haven't come loose...