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ZookiMonsta
Joined: Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1625 Location: Jimboomba
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 Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:50 am |
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alex wrote: ZookiMonsta wrote: Don't do the commonwhore swap... I friend of mine put one into a F20 Daihatsu. Was bloody quick just hope you don't hit a bump, want to turn or want to stop. If you're building a drag vit, well why not. if your building a drag vit there is alot better engine options out there 
Sorry boss. 
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steve

I live here!
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 7681 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 75 Cruiser
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yeah, gay fuckers in the vitaras 
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alex

az supporter
Joined: Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2151 Location: Brissy
Vehicle: Nissan
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 Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:20 am |
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ZookiMonsta wrote: alex wrote: ZookiMonsta wrote: Don't do the commonwhore swap... I friend of mine put one into a F20 Daihatsu. Was bloody quick just hope you don't hit a bump, want to turn or want to stop. If you're building a drag vit, well why not. if your building a drag vit there is alot better engine options out there  Sorry boss. 
apologies accepted 
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Jccck
Joined: Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 706
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Ben_Sierra wrote: Oh, by the way. a 48kw 4K motor in a 950kg zook is 50.5kw/tonne.
A 100kw V6 in a 1300kg Vitara is 76.9kw/tonne.
Get your facts straight before you start mouthing off...
My Zook doesn't weigh that much.. It was weighed years back when the Engine/Gearbox was engineered.
Fact.
The 4K has a webber carb, intake, exhaust, performance plugs/leads, shaved head and was rebuilt prior to the swap.
Fact.
I'm going to safely say it is probably around the 65kw mark.
Assumption, but meh.
And you forget to account gearbox/xfer/diff ratios, and tyre sizes.. Not to mention usable RPM ranges and the traction offered at any point in that range by the tyres fitted to your vehicle based on the terrain you are driving in.
So no, it isn't THAT easy to prove either way.
I was saying, from personal experience.. Having driven both quite frequently.. That the PICKUP is comparitable.
But thanks for submitting some numbers for consideration.
I'd love to say sorry, but the truth is the internet is a violent place.
I see people on this forum being flamed every day, usually for little reason.
I come in and throw a little personal experience comment in.. And wow, no less than THREE people are down my throat about it? Some welcome that is
If you can't handle hearing somones opinion without having to argue it til you're blue in the face.. Then just stay away from forums all together.
Wake up to yourselves, if you want to have a friendly community of Zook owners, how about you start by being friendly?
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:08 am |
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Jccck wrote: Ben_Sierra wrote: Oh, by the way. a 48kw 4K motor in a 950kg zook is 50.5kw/tonne.
A 100kw V6 in a 1300kg Vitara is 76.9kw/tonne.
Get your facts straight before you start mouthing off... My Zook doesn't weigh that much.. It was weighed years back when the Engine/Gearbox was engineered. Fact. The 4K has a webber carb, intake, exhaust, performance plugs/leads, shaved head and was rebuilt prior to the swap. Fact. I'm going to safely say it is probably around the 65kw mark. Assumption, but meh. And you forget to account gearbox/xfer/diff ratios, and tyre sizes.. Not to mention usable RPM ranges and the traction offered at any point in that range by the tyres fitted to your vehicle based on the terrain you are driving in. So no, it isn't THAT easy to prove either way. I was saying, from personal experience.. Having driven both quite frequently.. That the PICKUP is comparitable. But thanks for submitting some numbers for consideration. I'd love to say sorry, but the truth is the internet is a violent place. I see people on this forum being flamed every day, usually for little reason. I come in and throw a little personal experience comment in.. And wow, no less than THREE people are down my throat about it? Some welcome that is If you can't handle hearing somones opinion without having to argue it til you're blue in the face.. Then just stay away from forums all together. Wake up to yourselves, if you want to have a friendly community of Zook owners, how about you start by being friendly?
what are you 12? how much experience do you reckon you have
now, how about you go the fuck away, you arent welcome here anymore
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Jccck
Joined: Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 706
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 Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:16 am |
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royce wrote: Jccck wrote: Ben_Sierra wrote: Oh, by the way. a 48kw 4K motor in a 950kg zook is 50.5kw/tonne.
A 100kw V6 in a 1300kg Vitara is 76.9kw/tonne.
Get your facts straight before you start mouthing off... My Zook doesn't weigh that much.. It was weighed years back when the Engine/Gearbox was engineered. Fact. The 4K has a webber carb, intake, exhaust, performance plugs/leads, shaved head and was rebuilt prior to the swap. Fact. I'm going to safely say it is probably around the 65kw mark. Assumption, but meh. And you forget to account gearbox/xfer/diff ratios, and tyre sizes.. Not to mention usable RPM ranges and the traction offered at any point in that range by the tyres fitted to your vehicle based on the terrain you are driving in. So no, it isn't THAT easy to prove either way. I was saying, from personal experience.. Having driven both quite frequently.. That the PICKUP is comparitable. But thanks for submitting some numbers for consideration. I'd love to say sorry, but the truth is the internet is a violent place. I see people on this forum being flamed every day, usually for little reason. I come in and throw a little personal experience comment in.. And wow, no less than THREE people are down my throat about it? Some welcome that is If you can't handle hearing somones opinion without having to argue it til you're blue in the face.. Then just stay away from forums all together. Wake up to yourselves, if you want to have a friendly community of Zook owners, how about you start by being friendly? what are you 12? how much experience do you reckon you have now, how about you go the fuck away, you arent welcome here anymore
Yes i'm 12, thanks for asking.
A good 6-7 years of sand/dirt/bush/gravel driving in MY Zook, and 2-3 years V6 LWB Vitaras my friends own, which i drive quite often on and off road.
But i'm an inexperienced 12 year old, so nevermind.
You jumped head first onto that harassment thread many months back. All self-righteous and dudley do-right ontop of your high horse.
But look at you now, you're the one insulting.. Doublestandards are a bitch right?
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:18 am |
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no double standards, my game, my rules, if I dont like something you type, you go away
if you dont like something I type, you go away, see simple
your tech here is wrong, you dribble and wish fucking CANCER on people, that makes you an A grade, mouth breathing dimwit
now leave
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steak_knife

az supporter
Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:18 am |
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Jccck wrote:
The 4K has a webber carb, intake, exhaust, performance plugs/leads, shaved head and was rebuilt prior to the swap.
 Wow...
I shaved my head the other week, wold that make me more powerful than a Gv to??
having a BBQ in the car would only make it heaver to..
Oh, x2 on what royce said.. 
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Jccck
Joined: Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 706
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 Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:24 am |
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royce wrote: no double standards, my game, my rules, if I dont like something you type, you go away
if you dont like something I type, you go away, see simple
your tech here is wrong, you dribble and wish fucking CANCER on people, that makes you an A grade, mouth breathing dimwit
now leave
Yeah mate, that's double standards.
I hate to play ball with cripples, because it isn't nice to laugh at them when i win!
But oh well, and i don't hope you get cancer.. I'd much rather see you driving a Jeep.
Stekky, you're on the money as usual.
Adios
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steak_knife

az supporter
Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:33 am |
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Jccck wrote: Yeah mate, that's double standards.
I hate to play ball with cripples, because it isn't nice to laugh at them when i win! But oh well, and i don't hope you get cancer.. I'd much rather see you driving a Jeep.
Stekky, you're on the money as usual. Adios
So your going??? 
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Jccck
Joined: Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 706
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 Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:35 am |
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steak_knife wrote: Jccck wrote: Yeah mate, that's double standards.
I hate to play ball with cripples, because it isn't nice to laugh at them when i win! But oh well, and i don't hope you get cancer.. I'd much rather see you driving a Jeep.
Stekky, you're on the money as usual. Adios
So your going??? 
I thought Adios was french for "Pass the sauce"
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Ben_Sierra

az supporter
Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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 Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:35 am |
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Jccck wrote: Ben_Sierra wrote: Oh, by the way. a 48kw 4K motor in a 950kg zook is 50.5kw/tonne.
A 100kw V6 in a 1300kg Vitara is 76.9kw/tonne.
Get your facts straight before you start mouthing off... My Zook doesn't weigh that much.. It was weighed years back when the Engine/Gearbox was engineered. Fact. The 4K has a webber carb, intake, exhaust, performance plugs/leads, shaved head and was rebuilt prior to the swap. Fact. I'm going to safely say it is probably around the 65kw mark. Assumption, but meh. And you forget to account gearbox/xfer/diff ratios, and tyre sizes.. Not to mention usable RPM ranges and the traction offered at any point in that range by the tyres fitted to your vehicle based on the terrain you are driving in. So no, it isn't THAT easy to prove either way. I was saying, from personal experience.. Having driven both quite frequently.. That the PICKUP is comparitable. But thanks for submitting some numbers for consideration. I'd love to say sorry, but the truth is the internet is a violent place. I see people on this forum being flamed every day, usually for little reason. I come in and throw a little personal experience comment in.. And wow, no less than THREE people are down my throat about it? Some welcome that is If you can't handle hearing somones opinion without having to argue it til you're blue in the face.. Then just stay away from forums all together. Wake up to yourselves, if you want to have a friendly community of Zook owners, how about you start by being friendly?
Official kerb weight of a softtop Sierra, 930kg.
Fact.
Add a driver and fluids its a tonne easy.
Fact.
65kw from the 4K? I think your dreaming, but even so, its still a lower power to weight ratio than the V6 vitara.
Fact.
So, unless you've shed 200kg of weight from your Sierra (doubtful, it'll actually weigh more cos of bigger tyres etc. then you are talking bullshit.
You will find that this is a friendly community, but bullshit artists are not taken to kindly... Some people actually use these tech threads, so filling them with misleading information is not really a good way to go. Nor is telling someone to put a totally inappropriate motor in a car, especially if it is gonna be street driven.
Royce, just ban him already... He was funny to start with but now he's just fucking annoying 
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foonji
Joined: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1286
Vehicle: Suzuki
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 Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:40 am |
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I shave my head every 4 weeks 
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steak_knife

az supporter
Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:41 am |
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foonji wrote: I shave my head every 4 weeks 
 do your valve's clip now??? 
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foonji
Joined: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1286
Vehicle: Suzuki
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 Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:46 am |
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Only when I go 'clacka clack clacka'
A bit like pacman going 'whacka whacka whacka' 
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Fatzook

az supporter
Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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 Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:49 am |
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foonji wrote: Only when I go 'clacka clack clacka'  A bit like pacman going 'whacka whacka whacka' 
You are almost as odd as stekky 
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foonji
Joined: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1286
Vehicle: Suzuki
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 Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 11:01 am |
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must be contagious
that, or it's because I just spent a week in NSW...
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 11:26 am |
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regarding weight - my sierra with chassis extension, SPOA on hilux leaves, 31s on 15x7s, 1.6 vit carby engine and a soft top full of water weighed in an 1040kg with no one in it and a full tank of fuel.
take away the 31s and the extra metal i added plus any water pooled in the tray and roof and it'd easily come down to under 1000kg, probably around 990kg i'd imagine.
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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 Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 6:18 pm |
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Well back to the question wat about
Big Bore Kitvit78kit From http://www.suzisport.com/shop/
A$450.00
Larger Picture Big Bore Kit expands your 1590cc engine out to approximately 1750cc . This will give your vitara that extra punch .
Kit includes 4 x pistons and rings
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Brett

az supporter
Joined: Tue May 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1791 Location: Central coast NSW
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 Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:05 pm |
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1st up what have you done to it or is it stock? how much power are you after and what are you going to use it for?
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kenn
Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1202 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:29 pm |
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Maybe you dont need a bigger engine ,maybe you need better gearing.. 
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