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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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just wondering if it is possible to convert a suzuki super carry van to 4x4 using sierra bits and peices, i realise there would be much welding and stuff but i have an inkling to do something a little different as well as a shed full of parts, the suzuki shops here in perth seem to think it cant be done, i would love to prove them wrong.
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TZAR

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Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 3461 Location: licking some windows
Vehicle: LJ20 LJ50
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Just buy a 4x4 version
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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i thought only the truck carry's were 4x4, i'm refering to the little gay looking vans.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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Why would you want a gay looking van, then convert to 4wd, to jump gutters?
The front guards which are half the doors and floors because of the van configuration are small.
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IN2DEP

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Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 739 Location: Hoppers Crossing
Vehicle: 95 Sierra Soft top
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yeah that gay van do have 4x4 versions lol, in europe there pretty big i was thinking of getting a carry truck for work but it will be hard to fit bigger wheels on them or atleast over 14" lol
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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I've seen the odd 4x4 carry for sale up here. Not very common at all.
I'd still like to own one though. I reckon you could get some lift under it and get stock sierra 26's under there with some VERY skillful panelwork. Not sure the result would be worth all the effort, but thats for you to decide really 
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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hahah sounds awesome... one question though mick - how are you going to fit in there? have you seen the inside of a carry van?! lol
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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i got a welder a grinder and a fridge full of beer, anything is possible
personally i like the idea of having a stupid looking van pissing along the beach or tracks past 50k + larger 4x4's
now converting it to 4x4 is one thing but making it go well is another challenge all together.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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could you convert it to rear or mid engine? =P
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
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i think joe should make some portals for zook difts ,that should get u some room to play with
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TZAR

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Joined: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 3461 Location: licking some windows
Vehicle: LJ20 LJ50
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You mean an early van with leaf springs????
Okay you will probably need a frontLJ diff cause the offset pumpkin of the sierra may be in the way when you try and move the mounts in. Or spoa for extra stability
Also the rear tailshaft would be Uber short
Keep the standard engine box but just slip a sierra (flatter)or LJ transfer (smaller ) in.
The early vans had rack and peanut steering BUT its like a steering box as it has an output on one side. Hard to explain but its like a steering box but rack and peanut type steering. would be easy to adapt to the steering of a LJ/sierra
Less typing more doing with lots of pics. CHOP CHOP
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PJ.zook

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Joined: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 845 Location: Melbourne
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Dont let anyone say it cant be done. It can be done, its just a matter of skill and planning.
Without actually seeing one, maybe an easier method would be to use a mid-mounted engine configuration with the engine, gearbox and transfer facing backwards, then use sierra axles and flip the centres? Its a world of possiblilty. Just do it, and take plenty of photos.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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PJ.zook wrote: Dont let anyone say it cant be done. It can be done, its just a matter of skill and planning. Without actually seeing one, maybe an easier method would be to use a mid-mounted engine configuration with the engine, gearbox and transfer facing backwards, then use sierra axles and flip the centres? Its a world of possiblilty. Just do it, and take plenty of photos.
PERFECT!!!
Suzuki cappaccino frontcut!!! 660cc turbo with transaxle gearbox and diff in one assembly  Slap that in the back of the van and make an excellent 4x4. Only problem is.... no lowrange 
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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ive got a spare w/t sierra chassis and all the running gear ect... i was just going to try and make it all fit, clean the van chassis of everything driveline related and weld all the associated sierra parts on.
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Joe

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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
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I vote do it  or at least try it 
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boostedbrick

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Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:44 am Posts: 2003 Location: Brisbane
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Misubishi, honda, subaru and daihatsu all do 4x4 Kei vans. should be able to import one easy enough..
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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It would be fucking scary going down hills, but I say do it anyway!
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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Fatzook wrote: PJ.zook wrote: Dont let anyone say it cant be done. It can be done, its just a matter of skill and planning. Without actually seeing one, maybe an easier method would be to use a mid-mounted engine configuration with the engine, gearbox and transfer facing backwards, then use sierra axles and flip the centres? Its a world of possiblilty. Just do it, and take plenty of photos. PERFECT!!! Suzuki cappaccino frontcut!!! 660cc turbo with transaxle gearbox and diff in one assembly  Slap that in the back of the van and make an excellent 4x4. Only problem is.... no lowrange 
Caps are rwd..
You'd have to find a mightyboy box or something.
There is a D16yhonda motor suzuki carry ute on youtube somewhere
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303zuke

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Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2447
Vehicle: LJ50V, SJ70
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Fatzook wrote: PJ.zook wrote: Without actually seeing one, maybe an easier method would be to use a mid-mounted engine configuration with the engine, gearbox and transfer facing backwards, then use sierra axles and flip the centres? Its a world of possiblilty. Just do it, and take plenty of photos. PERFECT!!! Suzuki cappaccino frontcut!!! 660cc turbo with transaxle gearbox and diff in one assembly ..
Cappo is RWD with separate engine, gearbox, diff (Like Sierra or Carry!)
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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ah pooh.
How about a toyota crown AWD 1uzfe? 
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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Make it into a boat. !!!11!
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303zuke

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Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2447
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From the Fogey Files:
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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^^ hahaha looks like a tiny mitsubishi l300!
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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that looks easy just plonking the body on the w/t chassis maybe a little to easy.
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
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Joe wrote: I vote do it  or at least try it 
X 2
I vote do it !!! 
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3cyl
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 2054 Location: Ipswich
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303zuke wrote: From the Fogey Files:
Looking at the pic I think I want to build one myself! Best of all it looks scarier, less stable and more ridiculous than my LJ. The three qualities that make the LJ50 fun.
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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TZAR wrote: You mean an early van with leaf springs???? Okay you will probably need a frontLJ diff cause the offset pumpkin of the sierra may be in the way when you try and move the mounts in. Or spoa for extra stability  Also the rear tailshaft would be Uber short Keep the standard engine box but just slip a sierra (flatter)or LJ transfer (smaller ) in. The early vans had rack and peanut steering BUT its like a steering box as it has an output on one side. Hard to explain but its like a steering box but rack and peanut type steering. would be easy to adapt to the steering of a LJ/sierra Less typing more doing with lots of pics. CHOP CHOP
I had a 1975 L60 Carry trayback.... Same as van just tray instead.
It had leaf rear and strut front suspension.
It definately DID NOT have R&P steering.... It had a box and several links before the wheels, similar to early LJ20/50/80 setup.
Fitting 4WD would be a bloody big effort for no real gain.... Import factory 4WD utes and vans are available... Just buy one of them.
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3cyl
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 2054 Location: Ipswich
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But the import ones aren't high and ridiculous like the one in the photo. By the way can the imports be regoed in QLD and do they run any fancy or lower ratio diffs?
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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imoprts dont have low range either i think just a center diff lock
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