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sbyard
Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 189 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 89 Softtop Sierra, 6.5's, 30's
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 Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:45 pm |
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Hey, just wondering if there were any key tips to changing the gearbox oil.
I have an 89 sierra if that makes any difference.
Cheers
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Trojan
Joined: Mon May 26, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 390
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 Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:50 pm |
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Put the drain plug in before filling back up.
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SuziBlu
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4268 Location: Eyre Peninsula
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Trojan wrote: Put the drain plug in before filling back up.
Doh, is that why I have so much oil on my shed floor, bugga.
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sbyard
Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 189 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 89 Softtop Sierra, 6.5's, 30's
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 Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:58 pm |
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Ok let me elaborate, I haven't done it before and it looks awkward. I have no photo guides, and the shitty drawings in the car manual aren't exactly crystal clear. Do I need any specific tools like a funnel etc? Is there a process to it or anything specific?
Or is it simply drain and re-fill
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Ben_Sierra

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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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 Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:35 pm |
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It helps to take it for a drive first to warm up the oil - it drains a bit easier this way. Tke out the drain plus and the fill/level plug and let the oil drain out completely.
As mentioned above, its pretty important to replace the drain plug once its finished draining...
Gearbox fill plugs can be awkward to pour oil into. Some sort of siphon pump is often handy, or do what I did last time and squirt it in from a (clean) dishwashing liquid bottle. Fill it just to the level of the plug.
Put the fill plug back in, then drive it away!
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Rusho

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Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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 Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:38 pm |
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Just in case plan....undo the filler first. I always to this just in case you drain the oil and can't fill it up Its not a good look.
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:41 pm |
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You will need a 3/8 drive rachet or a 10mm square drive to un-do the plugs. You will also need some kind of syringe or similar to get the oil back in. You can't just simply pour the oil back in.
Something like this is ideal

Last edited by Scrawny on Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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kreecha
Joined: Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 115 Location: Darwin
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Hi sbyard,
sorry for the hijack, but I also wanted to ask the guys about this.
I did my diffs and T/Case and G/box last weekend and I found that the 3/8" square drive plugs are all chewed out.
Does anyone know of any replacement plugs for the Zook?
Cheers, Davo.
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Thank-you http://www.locktup4x4.com.
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sbyard
Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 189 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 89 Softtop Sierra, 6.5's, 30's
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 Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:48 pm |
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Ben_Sierra wrote: It helps to take it for a drive first to warm up the oil - it drains a bit easier this way. Tke out the drain plus and the fill/level plug and let the oil drain out completely. As mentioned above, its pretty important to replace the drain plug once its finished draining...  Gearbox fill plugs can be awkward to pour oil into. Some sort of siphon pump is often handy, or do what I did last time and squirt it in from a (clean) dishwashing liquid bottle. Fill it just to the level of the plug. Put the fill plug back in, then drive it away!
Thank you for your help. Please excuse my lack of knowledge.
Is there a separate oil fill spot for the low range section?
I think I may be looking at the wrong section of the car. How far down is the gear box fill point, if underneath the car?
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:49 pm |
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kreecha wrote: Hi sbyard, sorry for the hijack, but I also wanted to ask the guys about this.
I did my diffs and T/Case and G/box last weekend and I found that the 3/8" square drive plugs are all chewed out.
Does anyone know of any replacement plugs for the Zook?
Cheers, Davo.
Try and track down some new ones, either Suzuki genuine or second hand. They are easy to round out if they are too tight.
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Ben_Sierra

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Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4472 Location: Perth
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sbyard wrote: Ben_Sierra wrote: It helps to take it for a drive first to warm up the oil - it drains a bit easier this way. Tke out the drain plus and the fill/level plug and let the oil drain out completely. As mentioned above, its pretty important to replace the drain plug once its finished draining...  Gearbox fill plugs can be awkward to pour oil into. Some sort of siphon pump is often handy, or do what I did last time and squirt it in from a (clean) dishwashing liquid bottle. Fill it just to the level of the plug. Put the fill plug back in, then drive it away! Thank you for your help. Please excuse my lack of knowledge. Is there a separate oil fill spot for the low range section? I think I may be looking at the wrong section of the car. How far down is the gear box fill point, if underneath the car?
The transfer case and gearbox are seperate, if that is what you mean. The fill plug should be on the side of the gearbox, underneath the car.
Another point thats worth noting: gearbox oil stinks, so it pays not to make a mess while you are doing this.
Don't worry about the lack of knowledge, we all have to start somewhere.
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kreecha
Joined: Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 115 Location: Darwin
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ScrawnC wrote: kreecha wrote: Hi sbyard, sorry for the hijack, but I also wanted to ask the guys about this.
I did my diffs and T/Case and G/box last weekend and I found that the 3/8" square drive plugs are all chewed out.
Does anyone know of any replacement plugs for the Zook?
Cheers, Davo. Try and track down some new ones, either Suzuki genuine or second hand. They are easy to round out if they are too tight.
Shit so I gotta stick with them 10mm square drive jobbies? 
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sbyard
Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 189 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 89 Softtop Sierra, 6.5's, 30's
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 Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:44 pm |
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The reason I was checking the oil is because the other day it was stuck in reverse, as the screw the gear stick pivots off had sheared. I replaced that, and it seems to be working, except that now its making a noise, that seems to be coming from the gearbox. Just checked the oil level in the box and its full.
So now I'm stumped as to what the noise is?
Any ideas?
Reckon I can drive on it?
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Taff
Joined: Sun Aug 13, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 889 Location: Brisbane
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kreecha wrote: ScrawnC wrote: kreecha wrote: Hi sbyard, sorry for the hijack, but I also wanted to ask the guys about this.
I did my diffs and T/Case and G/box last weekend and I found that the 3/8" square drive plugs are all chewed out.
Does anyone know of any replacement plugs for the Zook?
Cheers, Davo. Try and track down some new ones, either Suzuki genuine or second hand. They are easy to round out if they are too tight. Shit so I gotta stick with them 10mm square drive jobbies? 
You can weld a nut of your choice to them 
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:44 pm |
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sbyard wrote: The reason I was checking the oil is because the other day it was stuck in reverse, as the screw the gear stick pivots off had sheared. I replaced that, and it seems to be working, except that now its making a noise, that seems to be coming from the gearbox. Just checked the oil level in the box and its full.
So now I'm stumped as to what the noise is?
Any ideas?
Reckon I can drive on it?
Where did the sheared off bit go?
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sbyard
Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 189 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 89 Softtop Sierra, 6.5's, 30's
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 Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:55 pm |
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ScrawnC wrote: sbyard wrote: The reason I was checking the oil is because the other day it was stuck in reverse, as the screw the gear stick pivots off had sheared. I replaced that, and it seems to be working, except that now its making a noise, that seems to be coming from the gearbox. Just checked the oil level in the box and its full.
So now I'm stumped as to what the noise is?
Any ideas?
Reckon I can drive on it? Where did the sheared off bit go?
Couldnt find it. I may have cleaned it out.
I think the noise is coming from the clutch plate. Cause like I said, the noise only happens when clutch is out. I also havnt put the cover back on, so there nothing insulating the noise.....
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:56 pm |
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So maybe clutch release bearing or input shaft bearing. Change oil as planned and see what happens
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sbyard
Joined: Sat Oct 10, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 189 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 89 Softtop Sierra, 6.5's, 30's
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 Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:59 pm |
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ScrawnC wrote: So maybe clutch release bearing or input shaft bearing. Change oil as planned and see what happens
If it is that, can I still drive on it?
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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Yep, if that's the problem
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ZOOKCREW
Joined: Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 29 Location: ipswich
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 Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:37 pm |
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ScrawnC wrote: You will need a 3/8 drive rachet or a 10mm square drive to un-do the plugs. You will also need some kind of syringe or similar to get the oil back in. You can't just simply pour the oil back in. Something like this is ideal 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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ZOOKCREW wrote: ScrawnC wrote: You will need a 3/8 drive rachet or a 10mm square drive to un-do the plugs. You will also need some kind of syringe or similar to get the oil back in. You can't just simply pour the oil back in. Something like this is ideal 
That`s what i thort to. 
_________________ I used to be indecisive,
now I'm not so sure.....
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SuziBlu
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4268 Location: Eyre Peninsula
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you did not, you just wanted to add another post, hehe.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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SuziBlu wrote: you did not, you just wanted to add another post, hehe.
Yes, But I fail to see the problem.
_________________ I used to be indecisive,
now I'm not so sure.....
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Trojan
Joined: Mon May 26, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 390
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kreecha wrote: ScrawnC wrote: kreecha wrote: Hi sbyard, sorry for the hijack, but I also wanted to ask the guys about this.
I did my diffs and T/Case and G/box last weekend and I found that the 3/8" square drive plugs are all chewed out.
Does anyone know of any replacement plugs for the Zook?
Cheers, Davo. Try and track down some new ones, either Suzuki genuine or second hand. They are easy to round out if they are too tight. Shit so I gotta stick with them 10mm square drive jobbies? 
There really isn't anything wrong with the square drive ones, when you use a 10mm square drive socket. It's a worthwhile investment to get one.
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SuziBlu
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4268 Location: Eyre Peninsula
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steknig wrote: SuziBlu wrote: you did not, you just wanted to add another post, hehe. Yes, But I fail to see the problem.
heheheheheheheeeee recon, sorry
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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SuziBlu wrote: steknig wrote: SuziBlu wrote: you did not, you just wanted to add another post, hehe. Yes, But I fail to see the problem. heheheheheheheeeee recon, sorry
What for? Most people would of just called me a post whore for some unknown reason 
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Lokidog

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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1441 Location: Around the corner
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Che

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Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2401 Location: Perth
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I used my socket wrench. Didn't damage the plug, worked a treat
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Lokidog

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Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1441 Location: Around the corner
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^^ Don't I run the risk of damaging the drain and fill plugs using 3/8 socket wrench?
Oh and Merry Christmas 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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