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maddog
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:51 pm Posts: 59 Location: ormeau qld
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how much extra width do i get? is it worth doing this or should i just get offset rims? are there any other benifits from doing the axles swap?
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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 Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 7:30 pm |
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near 4" wider from memory.
main advantage is you can run cromo cv's in the front.
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maddog
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:51 pm Posts: 59 Location: ormeau qld
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 Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 7:38 pm |
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so is it a staight swap or is there some fabrication required. if i get axles with centres are the compairable or do i need to swap the centres out?
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eldo

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Joined: Sat May 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2770 Location: sunny coast
Vehicle: jimny
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 Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 7:41 pm |
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hey maddog there is heaps of info on here about the swap, you need to weld the new NT spacing on to the WT diffs so you can bolt them on to your leaf springs, also swap a few other things over like flanges etc
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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 Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 7:46 pm |
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maddog wrote: so is it a staight swap or is there some fabrication required. if i get axles with centres are the compairable or do i need to swap the centres out?
as eldo said no its not a straight swap, you need the fuul housings and welding/fab skills
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inbits
Joined: Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:30 am Posts: 600 Location: qld
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Your best to stick with your current diff centers as they are 3.9 wide tracks are 3.7 this way you don't need to change the flanges.
The wide track spring perches need to be moved in about 40mm each
It is a worthwhile mod and if you are capable of fabricating it is easy you will also gain some more flex as the narrower spring spacing works easier with more leverage
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maddog
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:51 pm Posts: 59 Location: ormeau qld
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 Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 7:56 pm |
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fab skills are no problem been a motor body builder for over 20yrs its the other shit that has me worried, the problem (if you could call it that) with this forum is there is infomation over load, ive been reading for 3hrs and just thought someone who has done it could fill me in with one post. just like you guys did. thanks.
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eldo

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Joined: Sat May 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2770 Location: sunny coast
Vehicle: jimny
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it is a pain in the arse searching sometimes, try searching through the build ups
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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eldo wrote: it is a pain in the arse searching sometimes, try searching through the build ups
Bogfrog's build has pic's of the swap.. 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 8:39 pm |
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http://auszookers.com/index.php?name=Fo ... pic&t=3676
here it is, good read..
I'd recommend new perch's to, having to cut the ole one's off to save em blow's goat's, much cleaner welding new on to, rather than trying to glue ole rust shit to the housing's...
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russty_2008
Joined: Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 435 Location: Gladstone QLD
Vehicle: G16b 83
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 Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 8:41 pm |
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i just finished mine and found it really easy just moved the perches in and redrilled the drive shaft flanges i kept the nt handbrake setup but u will need the steering arms off the front wt diff
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xedent

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Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 895 Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
Vehicle: LWB Maruthi on WT Diffs!
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 Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 8:51 pm |
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I'm also doing this ATM just waiting on the purches from Fatzook, I have been told it's best to strip the diffs when welding to them as the old seals will probably leak from the heat.
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maddog
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:51 pm Posts: 59 Location: ormeau qld
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 Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 8:55 pm |
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xedent wrote: I'm also doing this ATM just waiting on the purches from Fatzook, I have been told it's best to strip the diffs when welding to them as the old seals will probably leak from the heat.
how much did the purches cost?
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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maddog wrote: xedent wrote: I'm also doing this ATM just waiting on the purches from Fatzook, I have been told it's best to strip the diffs when welding to them as the old seals will probably leak from the heat. how much did the purches cost?
http://auszookers.com/index.php?name=Fo ... ic&t=13126
$89 with FREE postage..
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russty_2008
Joined: Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 435 Location: Gladstone QLD
Vehicle: G16b 83
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 Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 8:58 pm |
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i just used the old perches just had to reshape the front drivers side one
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russty_2008
Joined: Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 435 Location: Gladstone QLD
Vehicle: G16b 83
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 Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 8:59 pm |
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worth doing on my first trip out fealt so much stabler
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:05 pm |
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russty_2008 wrote: i just used the old perches just had to reshape the front drivers side one
If you have to save the old one's, sacrifice the n/t housing's buy cutting through em to get the perch's off, the n/t r/h is the one you mainly need as it sits on the pumpkin, this way you can just lop the w/t one's off..
Shitty pic, but you get my point, once off the housing's you can take your time picking the perch off.
It's not a 2hr job tho...
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xedent

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Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 895 Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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 Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:09 pm |
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I get what you mean, I'm guessing that fatzooks kit are shaped for the pumpkin ?
I was a bit worried about that.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:12 pm |
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Yer one's a lil different to the rest, it's the front r/h one..
That pic is IF you are using the ole one's, & is the N/T housing, don't cut through the w/t housing's, cause if you do your up for new housing's....
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xedent

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Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 895 Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
Vehicle: LWB Maruthi on WT Diffs!
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 Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:16 pm |
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I bought the purchases aswell because I wanted to keep the nt diffs just incase there is a problem with the wt ones.
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bazook

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Joined: Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1082 Location: brisbane logan
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 Posted: Sat Dec 25, 2010 9:23 pm |
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fat zook just finished mine he is a good welder, and also doesn't charge the world to do them. As for gain I'm coming from spoa so I'm gaining stability
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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Thought I should comment.
3 of the 4 perches go straight on. The 4th ( one that sits up on the edge of the front diff pumpkin) will need slight grinding to suit the pinion angle you desire. It will take you a few minutes at best. 
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maddog
Joined: Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:51 pm Posts: 59 Location: ormeau qld
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 Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 6:55 am |
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no one has comented on a different offset rim! or even wheel spacers to get the extra wheel track. is there a problem with getting it this way?
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 7:02 am |
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maddog wrote: no one has comented on a different offset rim! or even wheel spacers to get the extra wheel track. is there a problem with getting it this way?
Yes, I ran 15x8 -28's on n/t diff's & the trye's scrubbed everywhere, have 15x7 at -15 with w/t's now & only scrub on almost full compression.
W/t on n/t spring spacing give's around 150mm extra wheel drop, honestly it's one of the best mod's apart from locker's, on road is improved to, well worth the effort put in..
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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 Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 7:10 am |
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maddog wrote: no one has comented on a different offset rim! or even wheel spacers to get the extra wheel track. is there a problem with getting it this way?
With Wt diffs you can achieve greater flex, and have greater access to aftermarket upgrades like chromo CV's, without having to run bearing busting offset rims.
Personally I prefer WT diffs AND bearing buster rims, but I just like making work for myself 
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xedent

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Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 895 Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
Vehicle: LWB Maruthi on WT Diffs!
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 Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 7:25 am |
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So wt diffs on nt spacing with ruf is the best ?
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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 Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2010 7:38 am |
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xedent wrote: So wt diffs on nt spacing with ruf is the best ?
For a road driven zook it works well without compromising the handling too much.
IMO links and coilovers is the best, but we work with what we have 
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