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bazook

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Joined: Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1082 Location: brisbane logan
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 Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:00 am |
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theres one on boost at the moment
j20a
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Teracis
Joined: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 2261 Location: Gold Coast
Vehicle: Daisy
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saw tanshi's thread on doing a j20 conversion (I think thats what he's doing) but it looks a little tighter fit than a 4age (though I can't find one of those either)
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bazook

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Joined: Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1082 Location: brisbane logan
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 Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:28 am |
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yea his doing a j20 conversion
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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Just keep in mnd that you will need an engineer onboard BEFORE you fit the 2.0L into a sierra in QLD. 1.6L is as big as you can mod plate without consulting an engineer.
Wish I had a spare $1K 
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Highway-Star
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4109 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: LJ80V-II (a proper Stockman)
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OK right.... Just how strong is an LJ80 Transfer case?
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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Highway-Star wrote: OK right.... Just how strong is an LJ80 Transfer case?
100kw strong? Probably not 
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Highway-Star
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4109 Location: Ipswich
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Fatzook wrote: Highway-Star wrote: OK right.... Just how strong is an LJ80 Transfer case? 100kw strong? Probably not 
Yeah I'm not convinced it would handle it either....
and its not worth putting in a Sierra transfer just for more power....
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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Highway-Star wrote: Fatzook wrote: Highway-Star wrote: OK right.... Just how strong is an LJ80 Transfer case? 100kw strong? Probably not  Yeah I'm not convinced it would handle it either....  and its not worth putting in a Sierra transfer just for more power....
Really? How about a J20, Ring-R, W56, and 4.7 lux case ? 
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2stroker
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2689 Location: North Brisbane
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 Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:26 am |
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Highway-Star wrote: OK right.... Just how strong is an LJ80 Transfer case?
ahh, well it is designed for an 800cc engine so not very strong.
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Highway-Star
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4109 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: LJ80V-II (a proper Stockman)
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 Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:27 am |
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Fatzook wrote: Highway-Star wrote: Fatzook wrote: Highway-Star wrote: OK right.... Just how strong is an LJ80 Transfer case? 100kw strong? Probably not  Yeah I'm not convinced it would handle it either....  and its not worth putting in a Sierra transfer just for more power.... Really? How about a J20, Ring-R, W56, and 4.7 lux case ? 
Too much Toyota stuff.... I'd rather put an LJ50 motor in it
Its for my road ute project, and I am still thinking outloud to various people on engine options..... but I really really really WANT to keep a standard TC and diffs.
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Highway-Star
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4109 Location: Ipswich
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2stroker wrote: Highway-Star wrote: OK right.... Just how strong is an LJ80 Transfer case? ahh, well it is designed for an 800cc engine so not very strong.
Really designed for a 50 motor I guess. The 800cc just sort of worked  .
People used to run (and some still do); Corolla and Datsun conversions in them. 1.3 through to 1.5Litres seemed to be normalish. This still seemed to be viable with a standard Transfer. There is some sort of sensible limit, and I guess a J20 is probably beyond it...
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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 Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:55 am |
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Highway-Star wrote: 2stroker wrote: Highway-Star wrote: OK right.... Just how strong is an LJ80 Transfer case? ahh, well it is designed for an 800cc engine so not very strong. Really designed for a 50 motor I guess. The 800cc just sort of worked  . People used to run (and some still do); Corolla and Datsun conversions in them. 1.3 through to 1.5Litres seemed to be normalish. This still seemed to be viable with a standard Transfer. There is some sort of sensible limit, and I guess a J20 is probably beyond it...
You could always fit the J20 and see how it goes, but you should probably have a back-up plan for when the 80 case goes pop 
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Highway-Star
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4109 Location: Ipswich
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Fatzook wrote: You could always fit the J20 and see how it goes, but you should probably have a back-up plan for when the 80 case goes pop 
Like bin the J20 and go back to a G16 or something... Seems rather silly. G16 is my "run out of interesting ideas" engine though...
Found a few cases of G13 GTI motors in them, thats about the "biggest" Suzuki motor I have heard of people putting in them with an otherwise standard driveline. Not overly keen on a GTI motor though...
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9715 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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 Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:40 am |
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Do i want a j20? I have a baleno g16 here though... hmmm Do i need more power..
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:46 am |
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i wonder how complete it is & yes Timmay you need more powaaar.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9715 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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 Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:47 am |
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toy difs..35's winch..barwork.....hmmm
Hows your J go?
Hmm Nah. He can keep his J motor. Just went back to when i was researching. I've had enough headaches for now. 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:59 am |
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it goes hard, i don't think i could handle driving a 1.6 vitara... it's pretty economical considering how much shit i give it. it is a really smooth motor, with a good usable power/torque range. it left polar_bears carby 1.6 vit for dead when we were both running 30's & I still had standard gearing.
after seeing how well the one slotted into tanshi sierra, you'd be silly not to seeing you've gone this far with the build up.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9715 Location: NSW
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It may come after if my fuel economy is up to shit.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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do it while it's all apart, sell the girly baleno engine & go the J20a.
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DarkHorse

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Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 5413
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It's down to $800...
Is it bad that I almost WANT my G16B to die so I have a good excuse? It's not showing any signs of giving up, I just want more oomph, especially with the 31s and aircon...
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7719 Location: Brisbane
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we are down to the small annoying stuff now with my conversion.
hose clamps, finishing wiring.
I wouldnt hesitate to do this swap again. but not on my one and only road car. having to drive a 1.3 jimny powered sierra around for weeks after actually having power is annoying as hell.
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5ierra
Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 1645 Location: Ipswich
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tanshi wrote: we are down to the small annoying stuff now with my conversion. hose clamps, finishing wiring.
I wouldnt hesitate to do this swap again. but not on my one and only road car. having to drive a 1.3 jimny powered sierra around for weeks after actually having power is annoying as hell.
I need a new engine atm. Wanna do another conversion next weekend? 
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7719 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:17 am |
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that depends how much your spending
if you can afford to pay for a week off work for dad we could prolly do it in 7-10 day 
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5ierra
Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 1645 Location: Ipswich
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 Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:21 am |
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bahaha, that isnt going to happen
I'll just start hunting for another G16B. 
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7719 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:22 am |
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I have a baleno one im looking to sell off.
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5ierra
Joined: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 1645 Location: Ipswich
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tanshi wrote: I have a baleno one im looking to sell off.
Hold onto it for me then, I'll pm you when I get home, on my phone ATM, don't let me forget to get that tailshaft back tonyou aswell.
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zooktastic
Joined: Mon May 11, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 941 Location: west sydney
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Fatzook wrote: Highway-Star wrote: Fatzook wrote: Highway-Star wrote: OK right.... Just how strong is an LJ80 Transfer case? 100kw strong? Probably not  Yeah I'm not convinced it would handle it either....  and its not worth putting in a Sierra transfer just for more power.... Really? How about a J20, Ring-R, W56, and 4.7 lux case ?  hey guys sorry to bring and old thread back from the dead but will a ring-r adaptor to w56 work wiht a j20a? i was under the impression it was meant for g16?
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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zooktastic wrote: Fatzook wrote: Highway-Star wrote: Fatzook wrote: Highway-Star wrote: OK right.... Just how strong is an LJ80 Transfer case? 100kw strong? Probably not  Yeah I'm not convinced it would handle it either....  and its not worth putting in a Sierra transfer just for more power.... Really? How about a J20, Ring-R, W56, and 4.7 lux case ?  hey guys sorry to bring and old thread back from the dead but will a ring-r adaptor to w56 work wiht a j20a? i was under the impression it was meant for g16? It is. But the gearbox is the same for 1.6 vit and J20, and the RingR goes between the bellhousing and the gearbox. The J20 bellhousing is 35mm longer though, so this may cause some issues with shaft length of the yota box.
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zooktastic
Joined: Mon May 11, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 941 Location: west sydney
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hmmm, im currently trying to figure out what motor i want to run in the next zook project. im not sure how a g16 will enjoy all hte extra weight of the bigger wheels, toyota box and twins. so i was thinking maybe the j20a might be the go. ill have to get my google on i suppose
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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zooktastic wrote: hmmm, im currently trying to figure out what motor i want to run in the next zook project. im not sure how a g16 will enjoy all hte extra weight of the bigger wheels, toyota box and twins. so i was thinking maybe the j20a might be the go. ill have to get my google on i suppose G16B will be fine with all that mate. Quite alot of our suzuki based crawlers are running G16B or even less. 
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