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Zook_Fan

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I know there are plenty of threads about the engines but on average for you guys that did the 1.6 swaps (either engine) cost? My 1.3 is approaching 250k and still strong for now but i dont know how much longer it will be like this. I want to know if i were to spend money reco and boring out the 1.3 into a performance engine if the costs would be similar to buying, fitting and complaincing a 1.6. Which would go better as well? With the 1.6 did anything have to be upgraded? (brakes, diffs, driveline components)?
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Mike

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Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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i can't remember if i read it here or outers but aparently a worked 1.3 is about as good as a standard 1.6 so the 1.6 would probably be cheaper than working your 1.3
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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 Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:59 pm |
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If I had to do an engine swap it would be to something EFI. Either G13BB or G16
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Zook_Fan

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 Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:10 am |
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fair enough but i just got the carby done so i might as well use it god knows i would never get $370 for it if i tried to sell it. What sought of cash is involved in working a 1.3L anyone know?
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Scrawny

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The skies the limit really. Depends how far you want to go. Probably going to start somewhere around $2000 and work up from there.
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Zook_Fan

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 Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:14 am |
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and for a complete 1.6L EFI set up?
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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 Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:16 am |
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Depending on engine cost, something like $1200? I could be way off but should come in way under a worked motor.
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royce

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probably alittle more than $2000 once you factor upgrading the fuel system and stuff
youll never get any carb 1.3 to touch an efi 1.6 and rebuilt engines are never as good
Last edited by royce on Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:10 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Zook_Fan

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royce

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no 2000 like I typed
youll pay 500 just for pistons for a 1.3, you bore then the sleeves get thinner and go oval even quicker, you wont be able to use your carb anyway
easilly 1500 for a good complete efi frontcut (or read up about what the guys with baleno engines are doing here) plus youll need to upgrade your fuel system to cope with efi so youll need maybe 2 pumps and a surge tank or graft in a jimny tank or something
then you have your adaptor plate as well
but look at the power and torque figures for a 1.3, a carby 1.6 and an efi 1.6, do you think youll get that much torque from any 1.3 combination?
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BlueSuzy

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My 1.6efi isnt up there!! So i didnt vote. Do you have something against us 1.6 efi people?
Mine was about 2K all up
Depends on how much you can do...
I did all  ...mounts,adaptor,water,wiring,new clutch,belts,seals
Including buying the coily tank and vit pump
I think im lucky...But for some of you guys its going to be expensive..
_________________ BlueSuzy wrote: I'm over the G16b's.
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royce

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BlueSuzy wrote: My 1.6efi isnt up there!! So i didnt vote. Do you have something against us 1.6 efi people?
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Zook_Fan

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1. royce you edited
2. i tried to put up the efi it didnt work
3. yeah it would cost me more coz i probably wouldnt be able to do that work for quite some time yet.
4. i might just try and find an old 1.3l with less k's to start with and then when i finish uni i should be able to do that sought of work
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BlueSuzy

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woo! im 20%  Im am a 1 off
But baleno has more kw/torque then the kw/torque of the swifty motor.
More of the fwd application only.
Few different mods too...Abit complicated for most ppl, Thats why vitara better option for some
Then you have the Baleno 1.3efi
Jimny 1.3efi
Sorry, i am complicating things 
_________________ BlueSuzy wrote: I'm over the G16b's.
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Zook_Fan

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yeah i was wondering if anyone has done a jimny swap becasue i have seen one and they said that is was a straight in fit and didnt anwer any more questions which leads me to believe it wasnt so simple. How do you get your hands on these engines???
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Mike

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Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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first thing you need to do is open the bonnet 
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
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Ring some wreckers, Explain what you are doing and hopefully they can help out mtr and wiring etc. My motor + the wiring cost me $1090. All had to do is pick it up. 
_________________ BlueSuzy wrote: I'm over the G16b's.
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Zook_Fan

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real helpful mike, righto is there anywreckers you know that would have Jimny parts?
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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im not sure what its like up there but down here we have wreckers just dealing in japanese cars they might be able to help you if not maybe a truck and 4x4 wreckers
look up auto parts recyclers in you local phone book there should be someone in there that could help you
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Zook_Fan

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there is those sought of wreckers in brissy but up in Rockhampton we got like 1 wrecker and then another 2 within an hours drive and all are very small and never seem to have suzuki stuff anyway but ill ring around
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
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i was looking at the yellow pages and there is a place in southport is that far?
there was also a place in brisbane specialising in japanese 4wds
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Zook_Fan

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Zook_Fan

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southport is south of brissy and yeah there is a few places i would like to go in brissy when time allows i would need about 4 weeks to go down pick up everything i want and have it fitted but then i wouldnt get back because i would have spent all cash on the car no money for fuel
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
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there is a place that on the net that sells 1.6 short motors and all you do is bolt on the head off your motor and then put it in
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Zook_Fan

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yeah suzi sport but is this a good way to go? what needs to be done any adapting and is this the equivilant of a 1.6 carby?
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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well they sell an adaptor kit too
the head is smaller so i think that means its gonna have a higher compression ratio
i reckon that with a bigger carby would go really nice
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Zook_Fan

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would you get away with not getting it complianced or would that just be stupid
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
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i don't know you'd probably be better off up where you are because it all seems pretty strict
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Zook_Fan

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 Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:22 am |
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yeah that is the worst part about it up here no availability and everything has to be done by the books
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
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we can't get stuff down here but people do dodgy things i've heard of engine mounts made from star pickets 
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