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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
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At 4,1oo rpm it really gets loud and you can hear the headers sucking
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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monkey wrote: At 4,1oo rpm it really gets loud and you can hear the headers sucking
how do headers suck, i thought they're under pressure from compression?
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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atari4x4 wrote: monkey wrote: At 4,1oo rpm it really gets loud and you can hear the headers sucking how do headers suck, i thought they're under pressure from compression?
Sorry i mean It's sounds like they're sucking.
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Jester
Joined: Fri May 08, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 726 Location: Adelaide
Vehicle: 1985 Suzuki MightyBoy
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atari4x4 wrote: monkey wrote: At 4,1oo rpm it really gets loud and you can hear the headers sucking how do headers suck, i thought they're under pressure from compression?
its caused by the low pressure behind the high pressure pulse pushed out, and this is timed by the tuned length of true extractors for that low pressure to be just ahead of a high pressure from another cylinder to suck it out further improving the scavenging effect, meaning your exhaust gasses are removed from the combustion chamber allowing for more goodness of petrol and air
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gjb977
Joined: Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:21 am Posts: 434 Location: Toowoomba
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At 4,100rpm the main thing I can hear is the induction noise that having a snorkel causes, particularly if accelerating. 
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
Vehicle: Jeep
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Jester wrote: atari4x4 wrote: monkey wrote: At 4,1oo rpm it really gets loud and you can hear the headers sucking how do headers suck, i thought they're under pressure from compression? its caused by the low pressure behind the high pressure pulse pushed out, and this is timed by the tuned length of true extractors for that low pressure to be just ahead of a high pressure from another cylinder to suck it out further improving the scavenging effect, meaning your exhaust gasses are removed from the combustion chamber allowing for more goodness of petrol and air
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Perfectly said ! 
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godzilr

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Joined: Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 133 Location: Darwin
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BUMPIN an old thread. tell me, i've had a good read through this thread and another http://www.auszookers.com/index.php?nam ... ic&t=16398 - everything leads to "GO FOR IT!!!"
considering doing an upgrade; 2" / extractors / hi flo / muffler / pod filter
i guess price can vary between $750-$1000
is it really worth the money. is the performance gain enough to warrant spending up to 1k
thanks 
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gjb977
Joined: Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:21 am Posts: 434 Location: Toowoomba
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Probably not worth it...but I'd do it again in a heartbeat. 
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abclarke
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:19 am Posts: 1966 Location: Couridjah
Vehicle: 1985 Holden Drover
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That seems like quite a lot, might be cheaper getting the extractors and cat online than taking it to a shop to bend and fit the pipe?
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
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6odzilr wrote: BUMPIN an old thread. tell me, i've had a good read through this thread and another http://www.auszookers.com/index.php?nam ... ic&t=16398 - everything leads to "GO FOR IT!!!" considering doing an upgrade; 2" / extractors / hi flo / muffler / pod filter i guess price can vary between $750-$1000 is it really worth the money. is the performance gain enough to warrant spending up to 1k thanks 
IMO, yes it is worth it. i have done an exhaust upgrade to every car i have owned, it just makes them run so much better, and gives you more high RPM get up and go, which is great for offroad, and onroad if you got a bit of a lead foot, ha ha...
So yeah, Do it, Do it, Do it !
But shop around a bit, even $750 sounds to much to me... you can get a good set of extractors off ebay for $200 with free delivery ! 
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abclarke
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:19 am Posts: 1966 Location: Couridjah
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Yeah thats like i said, $200 for extractors off ebay, $100 max for a hi flow cat from the US. No way the rest will cost $700 
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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Is your a a VVT jimny? the extractors tend to cost around $350-$400. Also if i was you i wouldn't GET a pod filter, as the jimny has a air sensor on the box, so a engine light might come on, if the senor is not connected. Just get a normal K&N panel filter. Cost around about $60.
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godzilr

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Joined: Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 133 Location: Darwin
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yeah wasn't sure about the pod idea. but i'll look into it further when the time comes. mines a non VVT too
with exh, all prices includes delivery; wildcat extractors about $275 / 100 cell hi flo cat $150 / sports muffler $150 thats $575
2" exh plus fitting for the lot would be minimum $200 easy. i'm thinking a bit more
thats why i've said $750 upwards.
not a fan of K&N monkey...will go for a dry type which doesn't need to be oiled.
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
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Ok. I got my 2" exhaust bent up for $80 including pipe, i just took in the old one and told them to copy it, and just cut of the old brackets and welded them on to the new peace.
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godzilr

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Joined: Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 133 Location: Darwin
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wow thats cheap. i'll go get some quotes.
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abclarke
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:19 am Posts: 1966 Location: Couridjah
Vehicle: 1985 Holden Drover
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6odzilr wrote: yeah wasn't sure about the pod idea. but i'll look into it further when the time comes. mines a non VVT too
with exh, all prices includes delivery; wildcat extractors about $275 / 100 cell hi flo cat $150 / sports muffler $150 thats $575
2" exh plus fitting for the lot would be minimum $200 easy. i'm thinking a bit more
thats why i've said $750 upwards.
not a fan of K&N monkey...will go for a dry type which doesn't need to be oiled.
Go ebay mate, much cheaper!
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