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zookkid
Joined: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 72 Location: BLUE MOUNTAINS
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how will 1 go in the back of a sierra?
were do you get them from?
how much are they?
pretty easy to install?
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3cyl
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 2054 Location: Ipswich
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1-good
2-Rocky Road Outfitters Utah USA (on the net)
3-about $300 AU to your door
4-easy enough if you can work on diffs.
They're good in front too,I have 1 in the front of my LJ50,the rear is currently welded but I have a Lockright ready to fit when I find a decent 1 litre Sierra rear diff centre. Zooks are awesome double locked!
_________________ awesome only comes in 2 colours, camo & bare metal
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Zook_Fan

az supporter
Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
Vehicle: Maruti and LJ80's
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 Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:01 pm |
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is that with or without side couplers and is it worth getting them just incase?
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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 Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:09 pm |
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i hate those lockers with a passion, but if you get em get the more expensive ones with lockright sidegears.
_________________ builder of custom road legal zooks......and stuff.
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Zook_Fan

az supporter
Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
Vehicle: Maruti and LJ80's
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Damo

az supporter
Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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Zook_Fan wrote: why dont you like them?
Drive one and see. On the road they push you all over the place and understeers like crazy. Good for powerslides in the wet though 
_________________ SJ50.4.LYF
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Zook_Fan

az supporter
Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
Vehicle: Maruti and LJ80's
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 Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:58 pm |
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what about just in the front so you it doesnt matter when your hubs are out?
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Rockhopper
Joined: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1265 Location: Chipping Norton
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 Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:08 pm |
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They are ok in the front, if you don't mind putting up with really heavy steering when your hubs are locked
_________________ We're riding in the Ninky Nonk!
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zookernator
Joined: Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 813 Location: Tasmania
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 Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:20 pm |
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and forever busting CV's!!! I went through quite a few when i was running a lockrite. I realise all lockers put massive strain on cv's etc, but at least with air lockers for eg, you can dissengage them when reversing on rocks etc. Very Good for their buck though!!!!!!
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Bear
Joined: Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 84 Location: Somewhere round the
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jmo- i have air lockers and a few mates had the lockrite ones and they said they were great but then 12 months down the track they changed their mind as it was locking and unlocking (clunk bang) all the time and wearing out the tyres
so if you can afford air lockers or ones you can manually engage and dissengage i reckon you would be a lot better off and will save on tyres and cv joints(when they are off you dont even know they are there)
one thing i have noticed if you are on a slippery side angle the truck will tend to slide sideways more with the locker on so some times it is better with them off
but if it is all you can afford then go for it as they will increase the off road ability of your rig a hell of a lot
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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funny eh, the only people i know who rave on about them and reckon they are better than anything on the market- have never had another type of locking diff. once you go air locker you don't go back. damo you hit the nail on the head.
_________________ builder of custom road legal zooks......and stuff.
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3cyl
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 2054 Location: Ipswich
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I never said they're better than air lockers,and if you're prepared to spend the money and if the sierra is a 1.3 fair enough.I have a manual locker in my Landrover and I like it.Just that you can't get airlockers for 1 litres or LJ's and they're only as good as the airlines,compressor,wiring,o-rings etc. Oh and they couple onto the sidegears which is why they're so cheap, you need to start with good sidegears and if you do a lot of KM's maybe wear issues in rear.
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grimreaper
Joined: Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 121 Location: port macquarie nsw
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hi all just looking at geting some of the lockrite lockers for my 1.3L sierra and readign here has me an little confused about what is the beter option. it wont be used for onroad stuff much ( just geting to the trakes) and i dont have na lote of money to spend,
also what is the benifit of the ones that have the cupling with them and the ones that dont have the cupling part.
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neil_se
Joined: Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 78 Location: Toowoomba
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I've got front and rear lockrights and they're what you'd expect for the price. They certainly get the job done (it climbs amazingly well), but they do make the steering very heavy, cause understeer and clunk round a bit. I couldn't justify spending $2500 on air lockers for a $1500 sierra.
_________________ 92 WT softback ute, twin lockrights, 3.9 diffs, S1
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steve

I live here!
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 7681 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 75 Cruiser
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neil_se wrote: I couldn't justify spending $2500 on air lockers for a $1500 sierra.
If you can find second hand ones, maybe $750 each in a diff center. And in three years you'll be able to sell it for the same price, so it's worth it when you know you'll probably get your money back, OR when you trash your Sierra enough and buy the next Sierra you can swap in your airlockers 
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grimreaper
Joined: Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 121 Location: port macquarie nsw
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 Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:14 pm |
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so is it beter to get the lockrite with the cupling or with out ( and what is the difrence other then price)
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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grimreaper
Joined: Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 121 Location: port macquarie nsw
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 Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:07 pm |
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royce wrote: get the coupling
can you tell me the diffrence between the two please
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:16 pm |
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the ones wthout the coupling require you to resuse the standard diffs side gears, which is great if they are in good condition and not worn at all, which they will be
bit like getting new tyres and reusing the old valves to save $5 really
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grimreaper
Joined: Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 121 Location: port macquarie nsw
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royce wrote: the ones wthout the coupling require you to resuse the standard diffs side gears, which is great if they are in good condition and not worn at all, which they will be
bit like getting new tyres and reusing the old valves to save $5 really
ok thx ,i dont know much about the mechenical stuff atm
also thay wont have any problems going in to the stock open diff
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:59 pm |
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they will have no problem going into stock Narrow track 1.3 diffs, wont fir the front of a WT
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brendan
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1484 Location: Sydney
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i just got a lockright but i didnt order the couplers. do they sell them seperate? where can i get them?
_________________ navara on 33s. hopfully rear air locker soon
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:42 pm |
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they are totally different lockers I beleive
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brendan
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1484 Location: Sydney
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what do you mean there total different?
_________________ navara on 33s. hopfully rear air locker soon
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:53 pm |
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the lockright designed for the side gears as couplers is 1 locker, the one that comes with is another locker
you cant just get the couplers from the complete lockright and bung em into the sidegear one, they are totally different
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brendan
Joined: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1484 Location: Sydney
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ok so just to clear it up.
the one without the couplers is made to fit the diff with the side gears>?
and the one with the couplers replaces the side gears for the couper?
in that case would it be worth putting it into the front? or leave if i leave it in the rear can i put it in the front later on?
_________________ navara on 33s. hopfully rear air locker soon
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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yes, they fit all rear or NT front using the original suzuki side gears
the one with the couplers fits either front or rear, depending on model
if your side gears arent worn (good chance of it) then it can go in the rear
if you fit it to the front chances are you will need bits from a NT front diff to make it work, otherwise leave it in the rear and get a proper front one, then you only need bits from an NT front or WT or NT rear
or just get an airlocker for the front
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grimreaper
Joined: Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 121 Location: port macquarie nsw
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so how do i know if i have the wt model and if so i cant get the lockrite for the front ( if so that sux)
ps: yes i an a noob with sierras lol
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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everything after 89 is a WT
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grimreaper
Joined: Sat Aug 16, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 121 Location: port macquarie nsw
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royce wrote: everything after 89 is a WT
ok thx
so saying that ( i have na 95 model ) i cant get the lockrite for the front wit hout lotes of modification
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