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xedent

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Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 895 Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
Vehicle: LWB Maruthi on WT Diffs!
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Just got a Arb winchbar for my Sierra and just wondering what winches fit in it other than the warn ones.
Cheers
Also after some pictures of beefed up chassis mounts for when you cut the out rigers off.
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Last edited by xedent on Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:20 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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 Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:06 pm |
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I also wanna know this
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reallyuted
Joined: Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 253 Location: jimboomba se QLD
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i have the aldi 9500 pound winch in mine its a very tight fit but all i did was get a pair of vice grips(duck bill) and just bent the back returns out from 90degress to about 70 degress where it needed it. oh and best recovery item you could ever have 
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S13RR4
Joined: Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1072 Location: Sunshine Coast
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Ratty562
Joined: Fri Apr 09, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 839 Location: NSW, Sydney
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 Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:38 pm |
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I've been told at Arb a 6000 warn is the only one that fits
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smiffkid

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Joined: Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:55 pm Posts: 3266 Location: perth wa
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 Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:16 am |
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tabor 9k fits i believe,
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smiffkid

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Joined: Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:55 pm Posts: 3266 Location: perth wa
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 Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:16 am |
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also avengers new 9000 pund winch is a pretty small unit, that should fit
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
Vehicle: 03 Jimny
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 Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:44 am |
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What about tiger 11 9000lb winch
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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Ratty562 wrote: I've been told at Arb a 6000 warn is the only one that fits
only one that will be warrantied in the event of a failure to the bar or chassis.
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jimbo_jones

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Joined: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4361 Location: gong
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 Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:16 am |
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mad zook runs a 8500 warn in his
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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 Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:20 am |
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You guys are overlooking one VERY important thing here.
The bar is not DESIGNED for more than a 6000lb winch. The mounts are far too light duty for a 9000lb winch.
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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 Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:31 am |
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Mine won't have the mounts that the bar comes with 
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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zooky08 wrote: Mine won't have the mounts that the bar comes with 
Not just the mounts mate. The bar too!
6000lb is enough to get a zook out of trouble.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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6000lb = 2.7tonnes - thats enough to pull 2 overloaded sierras out =)
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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alien wrote: 6000lb = 2.7tonnes - thats enough to pull 2 overloaded sierras out =)
Tis. I've seen it done 
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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i have a 6500lb jobbie and it is plenty big enough for a zook.
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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So if I have a 9000lb in a arb and only pull out Sierra or vitaras, it still won't hold up?
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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 Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:48 am |
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zooky08 wrote: So if I have a 9000lb in a arb and only pull out Sierra or vitaras, it still won't hold up?
Who knows. It may just shorten the life of your bar and or chassis. All I am saying is that the bar is not designed for that sort of load. And given ARB's mounting system ON THE SIERRA, I would not like to find out the hard way.
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Teracis
Joined: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 2261 Location: Gold Coast
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Fatzook wrote: zooky08 wrote: So if I have a 9000lb in a arb and only pull out Sierra or vitaras, it still won't hold up? Who knows. It may just shorten the life of your bar and or chassis. All I am saying is that the bar is not designed for that sort of load. And given ARB's mounting system ON THE SIERRA, I would not like to find out the hard way.
As a side note, what is the strongest winch you would think safe to mount on a zook? Do you sell winch bars yet?
If this is not the place I can take it to the business thread or PM, just figured while we're on the topic of winch size in a bar.
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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 Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:53 am |
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Well I know how weak the arb bars are
I bent nd ripped the holes out of both the bar nd chassis
Dont ask 
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skotup
Joined: Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 20 Location: perth
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go for it zooky08, engineers design a safety factor into everything to handle twice the force intended to to placed on it. So if its rated at 6000 pounds, it breaks at 12000.
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skotup
Joined: Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 20 Location: perth
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zooky08 wrote: Well I know how weak the arb bars are I bent nd ripped the holes out of both the bar nd chassis Dont ask 
snatched with the unstretchable steel winch cable?
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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zooky08 wrote: Well I know how weak the arb bars are I bent nd ripped the holes out of both the bar nd chassis Dont ask 
do you still have the "out riggers" ?
if not you only had 1/2 the number of bolts holding it on so you've only got yourself to blame.
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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Yea I blame my self 100%
was a stupid thing to do
Wasn't from winching
The outriggers were cut off from the previous owner
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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So how does that make the ARB bar weak?
It's like saying suzuki's are weak because my wheel fell off. I only had two wheelnuts on at the time though.
Steve.
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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 Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:52 pm |
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Well they are not weak if the are bolted up properly
Mine wasn't so I suffered the consequences
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xedent

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Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 895 Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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 Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:44 pm |
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Was it because you didn't use the out riggers? Did you use crush tubes ?
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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 Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 12:07 am |
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The arb outrigger mounts were cut of so that was half the strength I didn't have
The chassis is very thing nd it doesn't take much to rip the holes out
I had crush tubes
I was pulling my friend of a tree
The force ripped half my bar off
Was just Hanging of one side the chassis
Snapped two of the four bolts
And riped and bent my mounts on the bar
It really does pay to have all your mounts
But mostly don't snapstrap from your bar if only have half the mounts 
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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If you want to run all the mounts, then get used to running 29" tyres. 
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S13RR4
Joined: Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1072 Location: Sunshine Coast
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Fatzook wrote: If you want to run all the mounts, then get used to running 29" tyres. 
my outriggers scrubbed on my 29's...
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