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Timbo_
Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 251 Location: darwin
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For those who bought a kid from the states, with just mounting brackets. Quite sure for both vits and sierras.
What have people done to stop water getting into your rear bearings through the gap left by the caliper bracket?
Just not wanting to get water and dirt in areas that shouldnt get water and dirt in them.
I know the benT kit comes with a metal insert. Guess i can make one up myself one but woundering if anyone else has come up with a quicker and better solution..?
cheers.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:08 am |
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Wheel bearing's sealed...... 
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Timbo_
Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 251 Location: darwin
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:14 am |
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Timbo_ wrote: so they are water tight?
Nothing is mate......
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
Vehicle: LWB Sierra & XL7
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 Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:32 am |
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As you know, BenT's kit addresses this with a spacer.
You would just have to use Gasket sealant, do a BIG bead that will cover the gap. You'd need to use sealant on the recessed face anyways.
I use grey gasket sealant.
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
Vehicle: 03 Jimny
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 Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:01 am |
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I didn't get a spacer with the ben-t kit 
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
Vehicle: LWB Sierra & XL7
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 Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:05 am |
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It's the yellowish half moon things that you've probably left out.
At first I was like, wtf are these for, after mocking it all up I soon realised what they were for.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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buzbox wrote: As you know, BenT's kit addresses this with a spacer.
You would just have to use Gasket sealant, do a BIG bead that will cover the gap. You'd need to use sealant on the recessed face anyways.
I use grey gasket sealant.
That's fine, but what about the big hole in the center????
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
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The big hole of the brake rotor adapter? That butts up against the stub of the axle.
The big hole of the caliper bracket, The recessed part sits in the end of the diff. With my Vit it has that backing plate that holds on the drum brake shield thing. I put a bit of sealant around it and it sits flat against the brake caliper mounting points.
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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 Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:12 am |
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That's the brake line bracket?
That has nothing to do with sealing it
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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Sorry was ment to mention this was for a Sierra
There's no sealing of the bearing at all
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:15 am |
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buzbox wrote: The big hole of the brake rotor adapter? That butts up against the stub of the axle.
The big hole of the caliper bracket, The recessed part sits in the end of the diff. With my Vit it has that backing plate that holds on the drum brake shield thing. I put a bit of sealant around it and it sits flat against the brake caliper mounting points.
Still a hole mate.... the axel still need's tobe able to turn, so unless you fit an additional seal (then you have to lubricate it ) shit will still get to the bearing..
That's why the bearing's are sealed, even the std drum's let shit in top the bearing....
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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steak_knife wrote: buzbox wrote: The big hole of the brake rotor adapter? That butts up against the stub of the axle.
The big hole of the caliper bracket, The recessed part sits in the end of the diff. With my Vit it has that backing plate that holds on the drum brake shield thing. I put a bit of sealant around it and it sits flat against the brake caliper mounting points. Still a hole mate.... the axel still need's tobe able to turn, so unless you fit an additional seal (then you have to lubricate it ) shit will still get to the bearing.. That's why the bearing's are sealed, even the std drum's let shit in top the bearing....
correct
and tring to seal it all up will just make it worse and collect more water and mud, as once its there it cant escape again
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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One of the reasons I don't like rear disc conversions for semifloat axles.
I've seen a few of these conversions (done various ways) and they seem to chew bearings and axleseals.
Steve.
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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 Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:52 am |
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Mines already done
I don't like that the axel supports all the weight of the car
Don't mind changing bearing either
It's much easier to pull the axels out with rear disk then stock drum setup now
Will deffently go full floater down the track.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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zooky08 wrote: Mines already done I don't like that the axel supports all the weight of the car Don't mind changing bearing either It's much easier to pull the axels out with rear disk then stock drum setup now Will deffently go full floater down the track.
care to explain???? 
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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The axleshaft supports the weight of the car in semifloating axle. Zooky08 was comparing semifloat with a full float axle.
Steve.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:57 am |
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 I'll lean to read one day......
Just add it to my many fault's......
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Timbo_
Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 251 Location: darwin
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 Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 9:21 am |
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So, in a nut shell.
Recommended to keep it open to let crap out, but expect to have to change axle seals and bearings more freaquently than usual.
cheers for the help.
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