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matt91112011
Joined: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:05 am Posts: 241 Location: Eltham, Victoria
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Hi guys,
How is everyone?
I wanna know what diff is better to fit to a vit? The Calmini Anvil, or the steel gv diff.
What are the positives and negatives of both?
Thanks guys
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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with the anvil you still need to get the steel pinion carrier from a GV otherwise you're stuck with the stock alloy one & you'll have trouble finding a wrecker willing to sell you half a diff.
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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atari4x4 wrote: with the anvil you still need to get the steel pinion carrier from a GV otherwise you're stuck with the stock alloy one & you'll have trouble finding a wrecker willing to sell you half a diff.
Would you be able to use a Sierra carrier?
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atari4x4

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yeah, but there are a few hurdles... no pinion mount for starters & then there is the crossmember clearance issue due to the amount of diff drop is built into the calmini anvil.
Timbo_ is running the sierra carrier in an anvil & had a few dramas trying to get it all to work & i'm not sure if it's even back on the road yet.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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atari4x4 wrote: yeah, but there are a few hurdles... no pinion mount for starters & then there is the crossmember clearance issue due to the amount of diff drop is built into the calmini anvil.
Timbo_ is running the sierra carrier in an anvil & had a few dramas trying to get it all to work & i'm not sure if it's even back on the road yet.
i spoke to timbo last night and he has finally seen the light and is buying a sierra 
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atari4x4

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as long as it's not a coily, cause that would be a step backwards.
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shep
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atari4x4 wrote: as long as it's not a coily, cause that would be a step backwards.
thats generous, i reckon it would be a massive leap backwards. 
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tanshi

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A coily rear diff housing would be a great option for this. it would be easy to use the mounts that are already there to fix to for a pinion mount.
Major issue would be its from a Coily
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atari4x4

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Mick70b
Joined: Sun May 09, 2010 9:14 am Posts: 265 Location: Sydney West
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Pretty sure that Calmini state the anvil has to be used with a 3" lift minimum also!
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matt91112011
Joined: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:05 am Posts: 241 Location: Eltham, Victoria
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Thanks guys, looks like I'll need to find a steel gv front diff either way, ive got the cal 3" lift
Matty
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ninjamoses

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Didn't think it was worth starting a new thread so I'll ask it here... would I be right in assuming the Calmini Anvil won't suit the SV model Vitaras as the diff drop brackets are different compared to the earlier models (and on the Anvil they are welded on - not bolt on)?
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atari4x4

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ninjamoses wrote: Didn't think it was worth starting a new thread so I'll ask it here... would I be right in assuming the Calmini Anvil won't suit the SV model Vitaras as the diff drop brackets are different compared to the earlier models (and on the Anvil they are welded on - not bolt on)?
correcto 
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Polar_Bear
Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 2511 Location: Adelaide SA
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Couldn't you just cut and shut the welded on brackets to the anvil in the same way you would if they were the bolt on brackets?
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atari4x4

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i can't weld 
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Fatzook

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atari4x4 wrote: i can't weld  Buy one and send it to me 
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atari4x4

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just make a TSOR one. 
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Chop

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atari4x4 wrote: just make a TSOR one. 
When do you want it by? 
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Fatzook

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atari4x4 wrote: just make a TSOR one. 
I did think about it, but without a steel GV 3rd, whats the point?
Anyone with a steel GV 3rd will have a steel housing aswell.
Can you use a rear sierra 3rd if you sorted out a pinion mount? 
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Polar_Bear
Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 2511 Location: Adelaide SA
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atari4x4 wrote: i can't weld 
You don't need an anvil 
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Polar_Bear
Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 2511 Location: Adelaide SA
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Chop wrote: atari4x4 wrote: just make a TSOR one.  When do you want it by? 
I could do with one for the lowrider, once my swb is finished 
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Buddies72

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Joined: Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:14 am Posts: 240 Location: Brisbane
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The main difference between the anvil and the GV housing (apart form the built in diff drop brackets) Is that the anvil already has a bearing carrier & shortened axle for the RH side, so you can run a LH side CV on the RH Side.
Makes trackside changes of your CV's a lot quicker & easier.
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Timbo_
Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 251 Location: darwin
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Want a bolt on part? buy a grand vitara steel diff..
Want a head fuck trying to fit this giant piece of steel under your car with huge arms sticking out of it?
buy and anvil.
I have to put the sierra 3rd in, then try and bolt up the anvil around it is so large.
But im young and dumb and still will go anvil.
I Just wanted to save a heap of cash and use a sierra housing for the fact evey man and his dog has one in thier back yard. I managed to get one off shep with a lockright it too.
no one in their right mind would do so.
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atari4x4

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Timbo, I think the sierra 3rd caused you more problems than it normally would with a GV 3rd.
Buddies, nice work... i completely forgot about the stub axle set up on the avil. 
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Buddies72

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atari4x4 wrote: Timbo, I think the sierra 3rd caused you more problems than it normally would with a GV 3rd. Buddies, nice work... i completely forgot about the stub axle set up on the avil. 
Cheers.
I know what timbo is saying about installing one of these things with the brackets already in place. I tried to do it after my front diff rebuild, it doesnt work. Ended up having to pull the drop brackets off.
The bearing carrier and stub axle mod is a Must in my opinion. I've had to replace 2 cvs trackside now, literally a 10 minute job.
Next mod on the agenda now is the hilux cv conversion.
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stocker
Joined: Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:16 am Posts: 941 Location: Shidoni!
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so you can use a sierra center????
Please explain???
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Poita
Joined: Fri Jan 14, 2011 5:03 am Posts: 553 Location: Adelaide, SA
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So a GV Steel diff is a straight change over on a 1.6 carby (92) vitara??
I will only be getting a 2" lift, so from what I can figure the anvil won't work.
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atari4x4

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matt91112011
Joined: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:05 am Posts: 241 Location: Eltham, Victoria
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Guys I can't find a steel diff. So what are my other options?
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atari4x4

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matt91112011 wrote: Guys I can't find a steel diff. So what are my other options?
I know where there is one set up with 5.12's ready to roll.
what are you willing to pay? that is the 1 billion dollar question seeing they're so "hard" to get these days...
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