[TryHard]

Hey looking at Finding a Set of Hilux Diffs What should u be looking for ..

year Wise Diff Ratio Wise .. Planing on putting 37s on it with 1.3 engine ..

will most likely Change engine later on Chears thanks

[shep]

i would think that for 37s ya might as well start with something a bit stronger then hilux diffs

[4wheeljive]

Are you Running the 1.3 transfer ?

[TryHard]

4wheeljive wrote:

Are you Running the 1.3 transfer ?

yes with the 6.5s

[TryHard]

shep wrote:

i would think that for 37s ya might as well start with something a bit stronger then hilux diffs

was planning on putting longfields or Dirty30s in it .. should be fine i would think .? ..

can i do this ?

[Fatzook]

TryHard wrote:

shep wrote:

i would think that for 37s ya might as well start with something a bit stronger then hilux diffs

was planning on putting longfields or Dirty30s in it .. should be fine i would think .? ..

can i do this ?

I think that will be borderline Ok. You will still snap the odd longy with 37's.

[Scrawny]

MK/MQ Patrol? Don't they have offset rear diff too

[Fatzook]

Scrawn wrote:

MK/MQ Patrol? Don't they have offset rear diff too

Yes but gearing options aren't as good as the lux diffs.

[TryHard]

Fatzook wrote:

Scrawn wrote:

MK/MQ Patrol? Don't they have offset rear diff too

Yes but gearing options aren't as good as the lux diffs.

well still i think i might go the lux diffs for now
what year does it need to be out off

[canberramav]

i doubt you will break a longfield just with the 1.3

It can be done obviously, but you would have to be flogging the crapper out of it at full lock binded up etc.

Hilux diffs will be plenty strong enough for 37's. Alot of comp hilux's run 40's and bigger motors and they are fine.

[alien]

don't you need a bundera rear to make it work?

[TryHard]

canberramav wrote:

i doubt you will break a longfield just with the 1.3

It can be done obviously, but you would have to be flogging the crapper out of it at full lock binded up etc.

Hilux diffs will be plenty strong enough for 37's. Alot of comp hilux's run 40's and bigger motors and they are fine.

good to know i thought i herd people run 40s on them ..

still need some info on what ratios what year hilux to grab them out off

[Shanej]

hilux or patrol diffs (GU or GQ) I a looking at doing the same to mine...

[canberramav]

The bundera lines up better so will have better driveshaft angle and in turn less prone to vibrations.

Is this for a rego/road car or trail only?

[TryHard]

canberramav wrote:

The bundera lines up better so will have better driveshaft angle and in turn less prone to vibrations.

Is this for a rego/road car or trail only?

Trail only

[canberramav]

Look at 60 series diffs. Nice and strong and available. Good aftermarket options as well.

Dont bother with Nissan stuff. More $ to have built up and not as strong.

[TryHard]

canberramav wrote:

Look at 60 series diffs. Nice and strong and available. Good aftermarket options as well.

Dont bother with Nissan stuff. More $ to have built up and not as strong.

ok il look into it .. i will most likely some hilux diffs because i can get a set of them for next to nothing

[4wheeljive]

I have lux diffs on the road and the drive line would be a he'll of a lot better if the diff center lined up. The ratio is a 4.3 center, with the 1.3 transfer with no gears and 33s it is good and drivable for a daily on the road but a comp rig I would be chasing 5.1 diff center

[steve]

Look for the diffs where the front has bracing, not sure what year, might be late 80s early 90s?

and get 5.29 diff ratio

[canberramav]

The higher ratio you go the smaller your diff pinion is = weaker diff

4.88 and 6.5 transfer is enough for 37 inch tyres in any scenario. Too much even if your not doing rocks.

[TASSIETOYUKI]

canberramav wrote:

Look at 60 series diffs. Nice and strong and available. Good aftermarket options as well.

Dont bother with Nissan stuff. More $ to have built up and not as strong.

Wrong an wrong

60 series and Hilux use the same cv joints

Patrol diffs have always been known to be stronger than Landcruiser
There will be more aftermarket stuff for the Landcruiser stuff but that is because they require more beefing, oh and the fact that the Patrol was never available in the states

[canberramav]

Not wrong

Didnt say that hilux and 60's use different CV's?? I know they are the same.

Yes GU diffs may be stronger out of the box? So what? Its pretty marginal anyway from what ive read.They are still not strong enough for comp work.

Throw some chromo into your GU diffs = $1800, chromo hubs = $400+

Landcruiser/Hilux stuff can be built stronger and for less than half the price.
Around $800 will get you Longfileds with warranty.

GU stuff no warranty and not as strong.

[steve]

canberramav wrote:

pretty marginal anyway from what ive read..

Is the pinion size pretty marginal too? How many people have broken them?

I honestly don't know, but when i looked at my 5.29 gears, they looked the same as 4.88.

[TASSIETOYUKI]

OK so why would YOU (not ment to be rude, just a question directed at your opinion) not stick with the hilux diffs

canberramav wrote:

i doubt you will break a longfield just with the 1.3

It can be done obviously, but you would have to be flogging the crapper out of it at full lock binded up etc.

Hilux diffs will be plenty strong enough for 37's. Alot of comp hilux's run 40's and bigger motors and they are fine.

plus's that I see. Very cheap to buy and most likley have 4.88 ratios, better ground clearance, cheap Longfields etc.. you can buy kits to fit into the sierra (for those umong us how like to talk the talk but not walk the walk..)

Minus's Its not suzuki stuff and that is frowned apon by many on this forum

And on the Toyota v Nissan axle debate. in stock form Nissan is stronger.... marginal or not and we are talking in this instance of a 1.3L engine

[canberramav]

I would just stick with the Hilux diffs. They are fine.

I recommended he look at the 60's before he mentioned he can get the hilux ones cheap.

60's put the rear diff in a better position though unless you get a bundera diff.

A 1.3 engine will bust stock GU stuff no worries at all. Especially with 37' stickies. (In a comp or similar terrain)

Generally with the stuff we drive to put into perspective.......We put a standard 60 CV in one of our zooks and it lasted 10 minutes. We had previoulsy been driving all day with the longfield.

[canberramav]

Steve
I ran 5.29 in my 60 diffs and they were fine.

I just think for the 37 tyres you only need to run a 4.88

[TASSIETOYUKI]

canberramav wrote:

I would just stick with the Hilux diffs. They are fine.

I recommended he look at the 60's before he mentioned he can get the hilux ones cheap.

fair enough

canberramav wrote:

A 1.3 engine will bust stock GU stuff no worries at all. Especially with 37' stickies. (In a comp or similar terrain)

Generally with the stuff we drive to put into perspective.......We put a standard 60 CV in one of our zooks and it lasted 10 minutes. We had previoulsy been driving all day with the longfield.

Rock crawling I presume? not much of that goes on down this way

My Hilux diff has been fine for the last 7 years, mine spec cv's tough

and my patrol's front end is still fine, time will tell though i suppose. Like I said not much "rock crawling" going on down this way. Would love to get your way for a bit and check out what happens

[Red89]

I would go Lux diffs over Patrols because they are easier and cheaper on aftermarket parts, when you start looking at comps and sticky tyres.

4.88 came out in the petrol luxs in all years, I think. 4.88's and the 6.5 should be fine for the setup you currently have. If you are looking at upgrading or seriously comping it I would look for a diesel or surf diff, 4.5, 4.1 etc as you can then run aftermarket 5.29's in them which are no weaker then the stock lower numbered gears. The stock 4.8's and stock 5.29's run a thinner/weaker ring gear and more centred pinion then the aftermarket gears which is why you cant fit the aftermarket ones in those centres. See link below.

http://www.westcoastcrawlers.com.au/php ... diff+gears

[Gwagensteve]

Are there enough comps in WA to take a car off the road for? Do you have access to lots of private property?

It gets pretty boring to have a very capable car you can only drive for a few hours a year because it can only be driven on comps.

Just a thought.

A less capable car you can drive more is heaps more fun than a trail car that's sitting in the shed.

Steve.

[TryHard]

Red89 wrote:

I would go Lux diffs over Patrols because they are easier and cheaper on aftermarket parts, when you start looking at comps and sticky tyres.

4.88 came out in the petrol luxs in all years, I think. 4.88's and the 6.5 should be fine for the setup you currently have. If you are looking at upgrading or seriously comping it I would look for a diesel or surf diff, 4.5, 4.1 etc as you can then run aftermarket 5.29's in them which are no weaker then the stock lower numbered gears. The stock 4.8's and stock 5.29's run a thinner/weaker ring gear and more centred pinion then the aftermarket gears which is why you cant fit the aftermarket ones in those centres. See link below.

http://www.westcoastcrawlers.com.au/php ... diff+gears

thanks so much for that info