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IN2DEP

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Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 739 Location: Hoppers Crossing
Vehicle: 95 Sierra Soft top
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 Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:21 pm |
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Hey guys
Has anyone brought standard ome springs before ? Not lifted ones just factory sierra ride hight ?
As yous know by now im doing a spoa and I was going to buy new springs, the plan was to get the standard springs and remove the load leaf,
Would that make the leafs invert being that they are standard hight, or would I have to get 2" lifted ones then remove the load leaf
My goal is to get the springs flat
And if yous are going to cry about the spoa, plz dont post ok just info on my topic
Cheers guys
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:45 pm |
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I don't think OME make stock Sierra springs
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rpmwrx

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Joined: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1303 Location: Geelong
Vehicle: JK Jeep, Sierra & Raptor
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 Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:46 pm |
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I have OME lifted springs in my SPOA sierra. They have been under the car for about 2 years now i think and they are pretty much flat now. I am running standard lifted packs in the front and standard lifted packs in the rear with the load leaf removed and it performs well.
If your after new standard height springs and can't get OME ones i found this website a while ago, and have ordered a few parts from it. Here is a link to standard height, brand new leaf packs.
http://www.suzispares.com/scripts/prodV ... roduct=166
hope that helps...
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zooky08

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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
Vehicle: 03 Jimny
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 Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:48 pm |
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Ome dont make a standard Sierra spring.
Ome are very soft, so having the leaverage and axle wrap of a spoa(bad setup) will soon destroy the springs. I would try ask a custom spring place, maby efs, or kings?
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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 Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:51 pm |
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If you run flat springs you are either:
Not going to have much up-travel if your bumpstops are setup to minimize spring inversion.
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Get up travel but invert your springs to a fair degree that they will start to sag very quickly.
IMO your best bet is to get reversed eye springs or get those OME main reset inversed and get the pack with some camber. That way you can set up your bumpstops correctly but still maintain up travel but not kill the spring by running it in a heavily inverted arc.
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neofitou
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 1088 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: 00 Jimny, 63 Haffy
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 Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:32 am |
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OEM = Original Equipment Manufacturer (IE stock springs)
OME = Old Man Emu (Aftermarket)
Im sure if you ask for some flat OEM springs here you will have them given to you for free, as they are generally thrown away.
I really want to have a cry about spoa, but I wont.
If you insist on it I too would think a custom made set for the purpose would be the way to go.
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IN2DEP

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Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 739 Location: Hoppers Crossing
Vehicle: 95 Sierra Soft top
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 Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:41 am |
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Are standard springs flat ? And yes I know alot of people are dieing to cry about spoa but its a personal choies, and ive seen a few zooks that are spoa and work realy well so
Just let it ppl lol
So I might be better of with some kinda lifted spring then, no ?
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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 Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:29 am |
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IN2DEP wrote: Are standard springs flat ? And yes I know alot of people are dieing to cry about spoa but its a personal choies, and ive seen a few zooks that are spoa and work realy well so
Just let it ppl lol
So I might be better of with some kinda lifted spring then, no ?
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Id use you standard (factory) springs before I'd use a lifted spring.
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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 Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:50 am |
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ajsr wrote: IN2DEP wrote: Are standard springs flat ? And yes I know alot of people are dieing to cry about spoa but its a personal choies, and ive seen a few zooks that are spoa and work realy well so
Just let it ppl lol
So I might be better of with some kinda lifted spring then, no ? no Id use you standard (factory) springs before I'd use a lifted spring.
A reversed eye spring with ~40mm camber will give the same 'lift' as a dead flat spring but will not go into inversion near as much as a flat spring..
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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 Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:00 am |
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JrZook wrote: ajsr wrote: IN2DEP wrote: Are standard springs flat ? And yes I know alot of people are dieing to cry about spoa but its a personal choies, and ive seen a few zooks that are spoa and work realy well so
Just let it ppl lol
So I might be better of with some kinda lifted spring then, no ? no Id use you standard (factory) springs before I'd use a lifted spring. A reversed eye spring with ~40mm camber will give the same 'lift' as a dead flat spring but will not go into inversion near as much as a flat spring..
possibly I've never seen a set
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IN2DEP

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Joined: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 739 Location: Hoppers Crossing
Vehicle: 95 Sierra Soft top
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 Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:23 am |
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ajsr wrote: JrZook wrote: ajsr wrote: IN2DEP wrote: Are standard springs flat ? And yes I know alot of people are dieing to cry about spoa but its a personal choies, and ive seen a few zooks that are spoa and work realy well so
Just let it ppl lol
So I might be better of with some kinda lifted spring then, no ? no Id use you standard (factory) springs before I'd use a lifted spring. A reversed eye spring with ~40mm camber will give the same 'lift' as a dead flat spring but will not go into inversion near as much as a flat spring.. possibly I've never seen a set
Haha ive never herd of them, what about 1" lifted spring, is there any such thing ?
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CairnsZook

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Joined: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 872 Location: West Coast
Vehicle: Zookless
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 Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:28 am |
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rpmwrx

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Joined: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1303 Location: Geelong
Vehicle: JK Jeep, Sierra & Raptor
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 Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:51 am |
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I've had Lovell reversed eye springs before in my old zook. They Flexed up really well...
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:27 am |
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yeah lovells are a reverse wrap - i had them in my zuk too, they were a great spring and never sagged.
as far as the SPOA goes you're doing the right thing running them as flat as possible. my leaves invert after about 3 years use, so you do get a pretty good run out of flat leaves IMO... if you use springs off a wrecked sierra you'll prolly find theyre nice and flat anyway, and cheap to replace!
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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 Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:36 am |
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JrZook wrote: If you run flat springs you are either:
Not going to have much up-travel if your bumpstops are setup to minimize spring inversion.
Or
Get up travel but invert your springs to a fair degree that they will start to sag very quickly.
IMO your best bet is to get reversed eye springs or get those OME main reset inversed and get the pack with some camber. That way you can set up your bumpstops correctly but still maintain up travel but not kill the spring by running it in a heavily inverted arc.
Thats not really correct. You can set up a SPOA with correct bumpstop spacing and not hurt the springs. In fact, you should have a little more clearance when set up correctly. 50mm gap is plenty, and if you want to be tricky put a celica or datsun 'collapsable' type stop for even better compression control.
Use standard leaves with an OME extra leaf. Extra leafes, or 'XL's' as they are known are readily available.
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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 Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:29 pm |
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joeblow wrote: JrZook wrote: If you run flat springs you are either:
Not going to have much up-travel if your bumpstops are setup to minimize spring inversion.
Or
Get up travel but invert your springs to a fair degree that they will start to sag very quickly.
IMO your best bet is to get reversed eye springs or get those OME main reset inversed and get the pack with some camber. That way you can set up your bumpstops correctly but still maintain up travel but not kill the spring by running it in a heavily inverted arc. Thats not really correct. You can set up a SPOA with correct bumpstop spacing and not hurt the springs. In fact, you should have a little more clearance when set up correctly. 50mm gap is plenty, and if you want to be tricky put a celica or datsun 'collapsable' type stop for even better compression control. Use standard leaves with an OME extra leaf. Extra leafes, or 'XL's' as they are known are readily available.
Mr Joe, so is that how you setup your bumpstop spacings? With 50mm of spring inversion?
Do you know how much spring inversion stock SPUA have when on the bumpstop?
Dan
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:18 pm |
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ive got about 100mm between the diff and bumpstop at standard ride height, my leaves are dead flat, so im pushing 100mm of inversion out of mine... they go further than that too, but the tyres rub behind the headlights.
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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 Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:27 pm |
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JrZook wrote: joeblow wrote: JrZook wrote: If you run flat springs you are either:
Not going to have much up-travel if your bumpstops are setup to minimize spring inversion.
Or
Get up travel but invert your springs to a fair degree that they will start to sag very quickly.
IMO your best bet is to get reversed eye springs or get those OME main reset inversed and get the pack with some camber. That way you can set up your bumpstops correctly but still maintain up travel but not kill the spring by running it in a heavily inverted arc. Thats not really correct. You can set up a SPOA with correct bumpstop spacing and not hurt the springs. In fact, you should have a little more clearance when set up correctly. 50mm gap is plenty, and if you want to be tricky put a celica or datsun 'collapsable' type stop for even better compression control. Use standard leaves with an OME extra leaf. Extra leafes, or 'XL's' as they are known are readily available. Mr Joe, so is that how you setup your bumpstop spacings? With 50mm of spring inversion? Do you know how much spring inversion stock SPUA have when on the bumpstop? Dan
Stock would be about 25-30mm. By adding an extra leaf you can have a little more but 50mm would be the max.
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